Other Conservatives? (country, Europe, American, quote, Lute)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-14-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Much like package delivery services in america (DHL, UPS, FedEx, U.S. Postal Service, etc.). All compete for consumers. Prices stay low. Monopolies won't form because each company stands to make more money.

It's a wonderful system really. CarlJr is explaining it well.

When it works it is yes. I'm not anti-privatisation in some cases it works in some cases it doesn't. All i'm saying is I don't want shareholders profits to be a factor should I ever need medical attention.
In my experience of working in the service industry competitive prices for consumers usually means cut corners. And that is one thing I don't want to gamble my health for.

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-14-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fal

You're just full of those helpful little tidbits aren't you.

Socialism gives equality. Until equality is achieved, neither is socialism. It's not that hard to understand.

Then socialism can't work under a government.

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I thought I'd established that without him working in his job you'd be running to the toilet to throw up for a week after every time you ate at a restaurant. Coming from a well-to-do middle-class background may have warped your view on jobs that are good or not, but the bottom end ones are usually the most necessary ones when you get down to it. Being a builder may not be as glamorous and well paid as being a lawyer but who does a greater service to society?

Not really. If he wasn't working his job because he chose to pursue his studies, then somebody else would have his job and they would get paid more because of the demand.

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And why is greed, selfishness and hoarding right?

I really hope you're not Christian. That would be the cherry of irony.

I never said charity was wrong. I said forced charity is wrong. This is because you have a government forcing you to pay for a cause you may not agree with. I mean look at it this way. Every citizen is supporting the Iraq war financially whether they agree with it or not. Is it right?

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Somebody should give you a shovel so you can carry on digging your grave of naivety.

Don't make me explain stories about a poor people have risen to the big top. I hear many of them. In fact my friends dad was a poor Mexican immigrant and because he managed his studies, he has been able to be the president of his company in the SA region. He is pretty rich now too. I wish everyone would put effort into what they do.

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I've been loving Inuzuka Skysword's posts, where he'll say something contentious but pretty valid and then back it up with the worst possible examples. e.g.

I can admit to that. That is why I can't teach people anything. I tried to tutor someone once and it didn't work out well.

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Which, unless you are talking about yourself specifically and you are already your town basketball hero this is not true at all. Love the logic though.

Look at Sebastian Telfair. I don't even he practiced the routine I mentioned, but he practiced a lot and made it out of the ghetto.

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A government dictating or a business dictating.

The government has more power than the business so I would therefore go with the business. Governments aren't needed. Without a government people would have more money because we wouldn't have to pay people to make dumb decisions on how we should live.

~~CarlJr~~ · 11-14-2007, 09:09 PM

A government free society would survive for 10 years max. Anarcho communism works if you're looking for a temporary government.

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-15-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlJr

A government free society would survive for 10 years max. Anarcho communism works if you're looking for a temporary government.

Well, I would beg to differ. The only way a government free society would die in ten years is either from themselves or from invaders. Since you have countries who are willing to defend against things like imperialism, I don't think it is that big of an issue. I would rather die then live with a government that made me act like a robot.

BTW. I am into more of a Collective Anarchy.

anticipation · 11-15-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

I would rather die then live with a government that made me act like a robot.

shouldn't you be dead by now then?

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-15-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

shouldn't you be dead by now then?

No, I get enough freedom here in the US. Plus I don't believe in suicide.

anticipation · 11-15-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

No, I get enough freedom here in the US.

i <3 american mindset.

don't freak out inuzuka, i'm not knocking you.
i just see that mentality so much here in america,
and it kills me.

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-15-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

i <3 american mindset.

don't freak out inuzuka, i'm not knocking you.
i just see that mentality so much here in america,
and it kills me.

I understand where you are coming from because I don't think I phrased it right for you to understand.

What I meant was that we have enough freedom for me to not kill myself.

cardboard adolescent · 11-15-2007, 02:47 PM

None of us are free because we're all interconnected. The actions of one affect us all, we can't choose our situation nor our fate. More freedom for one person means less freedom for another.

TheBig3 · 11-15-2007, 03:44 PM

the empirical statements around here are hilarious.

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