TheBig3

I know I just posted something of this nature in the Indie forum but I guess I’m having a midlife music crisis. Anyways, the point…

Point: Pop seems to be a caveat. I mean there’s music that is universally known as pop. If you said Michael Jackson made a really good pop album with… I’d be like that was a strait forward comment. But for whatever reason, when a band sits on the fringes of more than one genre and someone proclaims they made a good pop album, I feel as if it’s a slight. As if its not good enough to be in whatever genre they tried to be in, or what a gaggle of mall-trolling preteens want them to be in.

And I realize pop itself isn’t a bad thing. I’m not suggesting that pop music is bad or that acts aren’t in fact pop but I’m asking if people feel as I do, that the term/word pop is sometimes used like a weapon to cut up bands they don’t like. Its easier to say you like a band if right up front you decry them as something other than punk/metal/indie. Its ok to like them If their “pop.” Thoughts on this one?

Example: I don’t know why you’re all bitching, American Idiot was a great pop album.

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djchameleon

I completely agree with you. Even a country album can be placed in pop just because of the singer and not because of the actual music itself.

Ex. Carrie Underwood. I think most country artists hate her for the fact that she used american idol to get into the industry and they feel like she took a short cut. They are always trying to put her down for her and will immediately call her album a pop album when it's as country as you can get. She even said it herself in an interview that she hates to hear pop versions of country songs like it wasn't good enough to just have the country version so they asked the artist to re-sing it to make a pop version

Urban Hat€monger ?

Some people are in serious denial about liking pop bands.

Bands like Echo & The Bunnymen , The Smiths & The Cure have always been pop bands and quite honestly I find it laughable the extremes people will go to to avoid calling them so.

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quagmire740

Pop used to mean you wanted to sound like the Beatles, example, all the Power Pop bands like Big Star, Badfinger, and the Raspberries

I'm not sure exactly what it means now

right-track

I admit to having a problem with the pop band title attached to bands of the calibre of, Echo & The Bunnymen, The Smiths and The Cure, but only because it lumps them in with the likes of the endless boy/girl bands out there.

It's time music lovers reclaimed the term Pop and created a sub genre for the dross...ShitPop perhaps?

Urban Hat€monger ?

Thing is though back in the early 80s there was a huge amount of guitar pop around , there is now, it's just classed as 'indie'.

Back when the Teardrop Explodes first came onto the scene Julian Cope was being promoted by his record company to places like Smash Hits & Radio 1 as being the next big teen heart-throb.

I'll repeat that because I can hardly believe it myself , Julian Cope , a teen heart-throb. It seems laughable now but back then it was commonplace.

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