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sleepy jack 01-10-2008 08:27 PM

*sigh* Just becomes someone isn't very bright doesn't mean they're cruel or abusive. Stop basing your entire argument are incorrect stereotypes.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-10-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 429901)
*sigh* Just becomes someone isn't very bright doesn't mean they're cruel or abusive. Stop basing your entire argument are incorrect stereotypes.

I said "in some cases", maybe my ideas are a little too far fetched for most of you guys, but at least I'm thinking. I apologize if it bothers people that I constantly come on here and whine about society, but as we approach this upcoming election, and I watch the debates with candidates talking about things like abortion, and the economy and amnesty, I can't help but think that there is a much deeper concern here.
What concerns me is that we live in a society full of liars; a society full of people who think getting a quick meal is more important than a nutritious one; a society who thinks that if almost every conservative was walking around with a gun, we would be a much safer society.
I haven't been able to pinpoint exactly what it is that makes people so comfortable to be and think like every one else, even if it means sacrificing their own good health, and morals in the process.
However, I will continue to research this and do the best I can. I wish I was a politician and in a place of power, and not for the money and not for the power, but the ability to help and change a society that I care deeply about, and cannot seem to understand why other people don't feel the same.

sleepy jack 01-10-2008 08:46 PM

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia That is what happens when people like you are in charge. It starts with restricting people of set IQ from procreating, (just like jewish people had certain times they could be out and shop, couldn't have bikes, had to go to their own separate school, wear the star of david, etc) and eventually leads to murder and than a holocaust. Maybe not that extreme, but still a bad road.

tkpb938 01-10-2008 08:56 PM

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Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia That is what happens when people like you are in charge. It starts with restricting stupid people from procreation, (just like the jews had certain shop times, couldn't have bikes, had to go to their own school, wear the star of david, etc) and eventually leads to murder and than a holocaust.
This was for a different reason. Adolf was like twenty different types of prejudice, but TheUsed2lGuy's idea at least had good intentions. However his idea isn't morally ethical at all. Instead what needs to happen is that us Americans need to crack down on our education systems and promote better lifestyles not involving sitting in front of the TV all day. Or the computer :P

sleepy jack 01-10-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938 (Post 429914)
This was for a different reason. Adolf was like twenty different types of prejudice, but TheUsed2lGuy's idea at least had good intentions, however I don't believe that his idea is morally ethical. Instead what needs to happen is that us Americans need to crack down on our education systems and promote better lifestyles not involving sitting in front of the TV all day. Or the computer :P

TheUsed2lGuy also has this bizarre idea in his head people below 100 IQ are responsible for drugs and murder and beat their children. In a sense thats prejudice seeing as it's a bullshit and completely inaccurate and incorrect stereotype and an unfair thing to say about all of them, even most of them. There's no statistic proving that and intelligence really has nothing to do with someones emotional or mental stability. Seeing as this is a music forum I think we should be more than away mental instability and genius can go hand in hand.

Wayfarer 01-10-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 429879)
My opinion on the abortion matter is very departed from the norm, but as a smart man once said, "when everyone thinks alike; no one thinks."

^ I like this guy. Don't necessarily agree, but it's nice to see someone with a fresh point of view.

Another alternative solution: make it illegal to become pregnant and not have an abortion. Just because it'd be hilarious. And because you wouldn't have any more of these dumb, sixteen year-old Jerry Springer whores yapping about how they've screwed three hundred times with a hundred and eighty different guys.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-10-2008 09:08 PM

You know what, Crowquill?
I don't know how to respond to that
I'm trying to express my opinion, and do it in the most civil manner,
and you compare me to Hitler.
So, I'm not going to do it anymore

sleepy jack 01-10-2008 09:12 PM

I can't help it if your idea sounds remarkably similar to some of his. It's better than me simply posting "I think you're wrong from a moral standpoint."

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-10-2008 09:51 PM

Oh yeah, I'm voting for Hilary;
just thought I'd throw that out there,
I kind of like Huckabee on the R-side, not that I'm saying I'd like to see him win, but we have to be realistic, maybe it wouldn't be that bad.
I don't see Mitt Romney winning. I just don't see myself looking back in history at president's, and seeing that name Mitt in there

TheDonald 01-11-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 429742)
First, as Crowquill mentioned, legalizing abortion would leave us with far less rape victims giving birth.

This really is your guys' only leg to stand on, isn't it? NOT EVERY WOMAN WHO HAS AN ABORTION GOT PREGNANT AS A RESULT OF RAPE! I'm not sure why you and Crowquill think that. How many pregnancies result each year from rapes? Do you know? Without any substantial numbers to back this up, your only leg to stand on has basically been kicked out from under you.

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Second, legalizing abortion would leave us with far less women unfit to raise children giving birth.
So only bad mothers have abortions? So now all of your supposed jillions of rape victims who have abortions are unfit people?

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Third, and most importantly, legalizing abortion would provide an avenue out of some situations in which a pregnant woman's health is at risk (or situations in which the fetus' health is at risk).
A mother's life should most definitely take precident over the baby's. But very few abortions happen because the mother's health and well-being is in jeopardy.

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Unwarranted? It's absolutely warranted in most cases. Christ, it's not like women are going around getting pregnant, waiting a couple of months and aborting the fetuses for the hell of it.
Unless the mother's health is at risk, there is absolutely no reason for an abortion. If she doesn't want the baby, there are thousands of other couples who would jump at the opportunity to adopt it.


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