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Old 01-09-2008, 05:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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better be shot, because she better not win this damn election,
and who the hell votes for mccain
New Hampshire has some very backwards hicks
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Clinton will be your first female President...mark my words.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Who the hell votes for McCain? Who would you have the republicans vote for instead? Or are you going to suggest they not be republicans?
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Clinton only won New Hampshire b/c she turned on the water-works and pulled the sympathy card. NH voters are infamous for voting crazy, so don't let this primary be any indication of the upcoming 11 months.

For the Democrats, the safest thing to do would be to run Hilary with Obama as her VP.

The republicans are basically f*cked in this election. Romney is a mormon, which won't quite draw that evangelical vote that the Republicans usually count on. Mike Huckabee is the only candidate that has any chance whatsoever of not making an embarrassment of himself in the polls.

And don't even get me started on Ron Paul...
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Clinton only won New Hampshire b/c she turned on the water-works and pulled the sympathy card. NH voters are infamous for voting crazy, so don't let this primary be any indication of the upcoming 11 months.

For the Democrats, the safest thing to do would be to run Hilary with Obama as her VP.

The republicans are basically f*cked in this election. Romney is a mormon, which won't quite draw that evangelical vote that the Republicans usually count on. Mike Huckabee is the only candidate that has any chance whatsoever of not making an embarrassment of himself in the polls.

And don't even get me started on Ron Paul...
So Clinton only won because she cried and NH is crazy and we shouldn't pay attention to them, but our best chance is Clinton, so we should all do what they did?

What the hell does that mean?

Mike Huckabee has no chance until SC and he'll burn out of money if she sneezes in Michigan. You may be looking at Rudy Rising once we hit Michigan, and the Super Tuesday states will show much promise for a lot of folks.

Whats wrong with Ron Paul and where John McCain in your estimation?
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So Clinton only won because she cried and NH is crazy and we shouldn't pay attention to them, but our best chance is Clinton, so we should all do what they did?

What the hell does that mean?

Mike Huckabee has no chance until SC and he'll burn out of money if she sneezes in Michigan. You may be looking at Rudy Rising once we hit Michigan, and the Super Tuesday states will show much promise for a lot of folks.

Whats wrong with Ron Paul and where John McCain in your estimation?
Hilary Clinton is always a front-runner for the mere fact that her last name is Clinton. And you know darn well that NH voters historically vote weird in comparison to the other states. I'm just saying that had she not cried in an attempt to humanize herself, she would not have pulled it out in NH. Women are a sucker for the waterworks, and Clinton snagged the majority of the women's vote in NH.

And I didn't say that OUR (America's) best hope is for Clinton to win. I said that the best chance for a Democratic victory in the 2008 elections would be to run Clinton, with Obama as VP. I personally feel that our nation is not ready for an african american president. Nothing racist to it, I simply feel that most americans would feel more comfortable with Clinton in office than Obama. With Obama as VP, he could dull the talk of him not having enough experience, and then run for president and win in 4 or 8 years.

Mark my words, THE REPUBLICANS WILL LOSE THIS ELECTION. Bush has been too wreckless in the last 7 years for America to vote in another republican. I think that americans see through the hype of McCain and Gulianni. Huckabee is a new face in the presidential picture and brings real republican values to table. He's not concerned with making the other candidates look bad or feuding with them, he is, in my summation, the best man for the job in 2008.

And on to Ron Paul. Paul is a damned Libertarian, he has absolutely no business gunning for the GOP nomination. If he wins, we may as well kiss our asses goodbye. Paul would single-handedly dismantle our government and everything that our nation hasworked for for the last 232 years. Ron Paul winning would be the worst thing to ever happen to America. Texans must be loony to elect him for like 10 straight terms.
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Its not so much what you’re saying that I’m arguing with, its how you’re saying it. Like for example, “NH historically vote weird.” I’m missing what’s weird here. Half the time they catapult candidates to victory, and every time they vote for who they think is the best candidate. I think we can look at everyone they’ve rallied behind and say, with a win or a loss, that they were the correct choice. New Hampshire is one of the better parts of America for the sheer fact that they ignore the headlines, the media hyping, and the wallet and vote for the best viable, “weird” candidate.

I’m not sure why you’d think the country is more ready for a woman (where there are vast and inherent differences) than an African-American. And what does McCain have in the way of hype? By August his campaign was in the dust. I’d say there was almost no base in that statement. Huckabee’s last pickup will be South Carolina if anything at all.

Real republican values? From Huckabee? On what position? I’m not sure what values the republicans have when half of them believe in big government and interventionist policy, and the other half want anti-federalist policies and non-interventionist policy. I really need you to tell me what the values are.

Ron Paul is more republican than the rest of the damn party in my opinion. If the Big Government Spendocrats are your opposing party, why then are you all for big government.

The issue is no longer that we tax and spend, its how we tax and spend. And really with the republicans, its more no-tax and spend and increase the deficit.
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did any one think that Clinton's crying seemed contrived?
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she’s a politician. And a Clinton, and I love them but...I mean did ya have to ask?
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Its not so much what you’re saying that I’m arguing with, its how you’re saying it. Like for example, “NH historically vote weird.” I’m missing what’s weird here. Half the time they catapult candidates to victory, and every time they vote for who they think is the best candidate. I think we can look at everyone they’ve rallied behind and say, with a win or a loss, that they were the correct choice. New Hampshire is one of the better parts of America for the sheer fact that they ignore the headlines, the media hyping, and the wallet and vote for the best viable, “weird” candidate.

I’m not sure why you’d think the country is more ready for a woman (where there are vast and inherent differences) than an African-American. And what does McCain have in the way of hype? By August his campaign was in the dust. I’d say there was almost no base in that statement. Huckabee’s last pickup will be South Carolina if anything at all.

Real republican values? From Huckabee? On what position? I’m not sure what values the republicans have when half of them believe in big government and interventionist policy, and the other half want anti-federalist policies and non-interventionist policy. I really need you to tell me what the values are.

Ron Paul is more republican than the rest of the damn party in my opinion. If the Big Government Spendocrats are your opposing party, why then are you all for big government.

The issue is no longer that we tax and spend, its how we tax and spend. And really with the republicans, its more no-tax and spend and increase the deficit.
By NH voting "weird" all I was saying that they usually vote independently of the rest of the nation.

And it's just a perosal belief that our nation would be more willing to accept a woman in office than an african american, especially is that woman's last name happens to be Clinton. Nothing against Obama, I would personally rather see him win it than Hilary, but I don't feel that the rest of the nation shares that sentiment, but I could be wrong, who knows what the 300 million other people in this country are thinking.

And how can you say that McCain's campaign has no hype? He's been bragging that he's going to run for the last 4 years. How's that for hype?

So you believe Ron Paul is a Republican? He's a LIBERTARIAN. He ran on their ticket in '88. He's basically a constitutionalist, which is not a bad thing, but adhering strictly to the constitution w/o any wiggle room is quite ignorant in today's world.

As far as Huckabee goes, he seems the least interested with all the political bullsh*t, and most interested in actually standing for something. He brings to the table a strong christian background (he was actually a former baptist miniser), leadership experience, he's anti-abortion, he's anti-g@y marriage. I do disagree with him on some points, like his amnesty proposals and his advocation of the Fair Tax (like it would ever get passed anyways), but overall he seems like the best man for the job in my opinion.
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