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Gates_of_Iscariot 01-15-2008 08:42 AM

The new and improved.. religous ****hole thread
 
First
answer these

Religion
Why?
Point of view


For Me
Im a staunch atheist
Why because I don't beleive there can be anything greater than me, for I do not like the idea of higher power, and a piece of paper will never rule my life.

Point of View: Religion is a comfort blanket for people refusing to accept their own mortality.

pheurton 01-15-2008 02:24 PM

I'm sorry but Tom Cruise is undoubtedly greater than you, please don't delude yourself. I'm basing my stance agnostic(ally) since my view of religion contains no substance. This debate is more sceptical than one on solipsism, you'll never win.

quagmire740 01-15-2008 02:25 PM

I've accepted the fact that I don't really know what is out there, I'll never actually know until I die, and I might not even know then, so it's not worth it for me to worry about it

TheBig3 01-15-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gates_of_Iscariot (Post 431394)
First
answer these

Religion
Why?
Point of view


For Me
Im a staunch atheist
Why because I don't beleive there can be anything greater than me, for I do not like the idea of higher power, and a piece of paper will never rule my life.

Point of View: Religion is a comfort blanket for people refusing to accept their own mortality.

You know, I've always thought that assuming people "believe in God for security in their own fate" illustrated that they didn't know much about religion. "Sinners in the hands of an Angry God" alone should stand in start contrast, or the passage that says any half believers will be vomited forth from the mouth of God. Where's the comfort?

Kevorkian Logic 01-15-2008 04:01 PM

The bible is a nice, creative non-fiction story.

tkpb938 01-15-2008 04:10 PM

I smoke pages of the bible from time to time. :thumb:

Duke Of Slander 01-15-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938 (Post 431554)
I smoke pages of the bible from time to time. :thumb:

You too!?:laughing:

Gates_of_Iscariot 01-15-2008 04:31 PM

Anyways, ive never understood evangelical people, It seems that by forcing their religion, people are less apt to adopt it. Secondly, if there was a God I think he would be a little more forgiving, than all those texts say, because he supposedly created everyhing, so therefore he cretaed the desire for people to go against him. Thus he also must have created atheism if this is true.

If there is a god id think that it would be much more simple than that. More or less, he would have created, but moved on.

right-track 01-15-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gates_of_Iscariot (Post 431558)

If there is a god id think that it would be much more simple than that. More or less, he would have created, but moved on.

And on the 8th day...God buggered off!?

Lizzie 01-15-2008 05:54 PM

Religion is good in theroy, but has become a horrible way of brainwashing people so that they stay under control, and live in fear of god.
Im an atheist all the way...religion is absolutly ridiculous

Skid Mark 01-15-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quagmire740 (Post 431521)
I've accepted the fact that I don't really know what is out there, I'll never actually know until I die, and I might not even know then, so it's not worth it for me to worry about it

quoted for truth :thumb:

jackhammer 01-15-2008 06:37 PM

I have come to the conclusion that there is no god and the only person in charge of my own destiny is me, and the choices I make. Of course If I'm wrong I expect jc's DAD to kick me all over the place when i croak. I will worry about that when I'm gone.

Lizzie 01-16-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 431699)
Organized religion being ridiculous doesn't mean God doesn't exist.

nope, it doesnt at all, but i just think that the church is a place where you are brainwashed into beliving in him. I mean, I do actually think that there is nothing wrong with with beleving in god, but its just when people use that as an excuse to justify their behavour, or something like that. Personally, i guess i just need more evicence or scientific fact in order to belive something as big as that.

ItalianStallion 01-16-2008 02:43 PM

Well, liz, you speak for the majority of churches, and I actually agree with you for the most part, and I am a Christain. It sickens me how a lot of churches try to scare people into doing "good"...and making them believe total crap like Homosexuals being evil, and that liberals are statanic...you get my drift. A few of my friends agree with me in this area. I mean, I have heard people say that drug addictions are demon posessions...COME ON...honestly, how can someone think taht a chemical addiction is a devil of some sort...point is, I am a Christian, and sometimes my own religion has made me sick with the way people treat each other. I mean, to look at Jesus, the basis of christainty, the guy was against everything taht was religious in that day, he hated the hypociytical religous leaders, and said the most omportant thing was to treat other people how you would want to be treated. Somehow telling ***s that they are unwelcome, divorcees are bad people, people who have sex outside of marrige are bad people..etc...I mean, come on...

cardboard adolescent 01-16-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 431560)
And on the 8th day...God buggered off!?

Put the double barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger.

Btw Mikey, have you seen Winter Light?

Gates_of_Iscariot 01-16-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent (Post 431883)
Put the double barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger.

Btw Mikey, have you seen Winter Light?

no?
would i be able to find it ina video store, or you could pm me a nice site to get movies

cardboard adolescent 01-16-2008 04:07 PM

I got it off mininova.org, might be able to find it at blockbuster i'm not sure. it's from the same director as seventh seal and it's equally brilliant (and about religion, i'm not going completely off topic here).

Lizzie 01-16-2008 04:51 PM

how great is it when you have a science teacher who is trying to tell everyone in the class that the earth is only 4 thousand or whatever years old, and that all scientific fact disproving that is fake or flawed. I mean, come on, hes a SCIENCE teacher, and all he was saying was that all that scientific reasearch saying the earth was 4 thousand years old was right, but that everything else disproving that was bull****. it was ridiculous!

riseagainstrocks 01-16-2008 06:21 PM

I still don't know what my real thoughts on this topic are. I was raised Protestant (Methodist to be precise), however I do not believe the same things my parents do.

I'm of the mind that the universe is far too ordered for it to be a cosmic "accident" of sorts, however if there was a supernatural being who put it all into motion, he/she/it sure isn't watching over us now.

Plus there are a multitude of scientific quandries which by and large remove God from the equation.

Blain 01-16-2008 06:31 PM

I am a Christian, I believe in God and follow him as my lord. Most of you will probably all call me an idiot and talk about how young I am, but I respect your belief, so you better f*cking well respect mine.

I am not the type of Christian to enforce my moral beliefs on others, and I as a Christian, also do not follow every thing the bible says, but, I guess this is how my life works, God or no God, me believing in a higher power has helped me get through my life as far, and I'm going to stick with it. It's also brought me some wonderful friends and new people in to my life.

sleepy jack 01-16-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blain (Post 432058)
I am a Christian, I believe in God and follow him as my lord. Most of you will probably all call me an idiot and talk about how young I am, but I respect your belief, so you better f*cking well respect mine.

I am not the type of Christian to enforce my moral beliefs on others, and I as a Christian, also do not follow every thing the bible says, but, I guess this is how my life works, God or no God, me believing in a higher power has helped me get through my life as far, and I'm going to stick with it. It's also brought me some wonderful friends and new people in to my life.

If you're a true christian then how do you explain last night? =o

TheDonald 01-16-2008 10:38 PM

God's in my crew, we roll deep.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/updraft/jebus.jpg

Gates_of_Iscariot 01-17-2008 08:51 AM

I cant respect people who follow lies

Gates_of_Iscariot 01-17-2008 11:57 AM

just look towards the morning star

right-track 01-17-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDonald (Post 432123)
God's in my crew, we roll deep.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/updraft/jebus.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gates_of_Iscariot (Post 432183)
I cant respect people who follow lies

I can't make my mind up about which of these 2 comments is the funniest.

Blain 01-18-2008 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 432067)
If you're a true christian then how do you explain last night? =o

I can't

Sorreh.

sleepy jack 01-18-2008 03:39 AM

All will be forgiven child.

riseagainstrocks 01-18-2008 06:22 PM

These threads are always so boring because with few exceptions, everyone on the internet is an atheist, or something close enough.

Lizzie 01-18-2008 06:25 PM

^ maybe you could post something interesting for us then.

anticipation 01-18-2008 06:43 PM

atheism is the new black,


and so is saying that atheism is only something that internet geeks claim to be to seem different.

tkpb938 01-18-2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

atheism is the new black,


and so is saying that atheism is only something that internet geeks claim to be to seem different.
I'm agnostic.... fo' rizzle

riseagainstrocks 01-18-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny (Post 432674)
atheism is the new black,


and so is saying that atheism is only something that internet geeks claim to be to seem different.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzie
maybe you could post something interesting for us then.

I could, but then I wouldn't be able to sit back and complain now would I?


but in all seriousness, most people who posted in this thread are generally of the same mind and people who aren't (Blain) have already stated that they don't have enough conviction to defend their beliefs to those that claim such superstition is both counterproductive and detrimental to society as a whole (more of less).

I would be interested in hearing arguements for Christianity (or any other monotheistic religion) however. And none of this "it's a personal thing man. you just don't understand" nonsense. You know what else is a personal thing that no one else will get? An acid trip, dementia, multiple personalities, etc. etc.

sleepy jack 01-18-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 432683)
but in all seriousness, most people who posted in this thread are generally of the same mind and people who aren't (Blain) have already stated that they don't have enough conviction to defend their beliefs to those that claim such superstition is both counterproductive and detrimental to society as a whole (more of less).

Lol he didn't say anything like that and I think that kind of crap is just the thing he was referring to when you say "you should respect mine."

riseagainstrocks 01-18-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 432684)
Lol he didn't say anything like that and I think that kind of crap is just the thing he was referring to when you say "you should respect mine."

I don't get the difference. If you're going to say, "Hey I'm a Christian. I don't want to talk about it, but I respect you so you have to respect me!" then I'm going to call you out on it.

Either a) don't post or b) post and be prepared to defend what you say. Easy as that.

sleepy jack 01-18-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 432703)
I don't get the difference. If you're going to say, "Hey I'm a Christian. I don't want to talk about it, but I respect you so you have to respect me!" then I'm going to call you out on it.

Either a) don't post or b) post and be prepared to defend what you say. Easy as that.

He posted his point of view that's all the thread asked. With the amount of crap christians tend to get on the internet I can hardly blame him for not wanting to discuss it.

Blain 01-19-2008 03:51 PM

Thanks Ethan. I don't really see why I have to defend myself for that, if I say anything to even defend my beliefs they're just gunna get shot down by Mikey or someone else anyway.

I agree with you Ian, these threads are fairly pointless, but if posting my point of view is gunna get a discussion on a roll, I may as well do it. I simply said respect my beliefs so I don't get singled out as some narrow minded Christian who's heads so far up their ass that they start to shoot down other peoples beliefs.

I'm not gonna bother arguing, because it's a sure fact that I'm gunna "lose" so, I may as well walk away:pimp:

/walks out with style.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-20-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic (Post 431551)
The bible is a nice, creative non-fiction story.

I assume you meant fiction.
There is a lot of evidence that has cropped up, that Jesus never even existed.
Of course when James Cameron 'discovered his grave' a few years back, there were a ton of people who already knew it was a joke, and how it would turn out. And how did it turn out? He was wrong.
In my opinion, they will never find Jesus's grave, or anyone will ever be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he existed. In fact, it's much more likely in my lifetime they will disprove his existence rather than prove it.
With all that said, I still don't think believing in him is that bad of a thing. It's kind of like a little kid believing in Santa Claus. They're just not smart enough yet to know any better, but you don't go up to Little Timmy, and say, "There is no Santa Claus"
I'll just say I believe in a God, but not JC. However to all Christians please stop perverting your religion. I heard this lady on the radio the other day saying that 'Hindus believe in nothing' and this is a woman who knows so much that apparently her opinion should be heard on the radio. Why are christians constantly going around perverting these ideas of homophobia and xenophobia. What does that have to do with Jesus?

tkpb938 01-20-2008 09:04 PM

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They base their lives around the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. They're probably going to get a good amount of crap on the internet.
ROFLMFAO!!! Wow that was great.... and so true.

Lizzie 01-20-2008 09:05 PM

^ totally just summed up christianity right there

riseagainstrocks 01-21-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 433541)
They base their lives around the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. They're probably going to get a good amount of crap on the internet.

This post highlights have moronic the dogma is. Well done.


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