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Predator 01-27-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 436537)
Yeah, your right, but they still need meat to survive, even if they can eat plants

Wolves would need meat just as much as humans. They could live without it.

sleepy jack 01-27-2008 06:34 PM

I re-state.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 436541)
Um, canidae's are generally considered carnivora, so no that's not quite right.


jesus 01-27-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Predator (Post 436538)
It is human nature to eat meat. You are going against your own nature to be vegetarian. We are omnivores. Eating nothing but plants does not change that.

as humans we also have developed alternative foods that do not come from the rotting corpse of a dead animal that offer the same nutrients meat does, human nature or not, i am personally against killing, and if i can live a healthy life without taking anyone else's, i'm very ok with that

Predator 01-27-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 436541)
Um, canidae's are generally considered carnivora, so no that's not quite right.


They have been observed eating plants and animals. This makes them omnivorous. Their primary diet consists mainly of meat.

sleepy jack 01-27-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Predator (Post 436546)
They have been observed eating plants and animals. This makes them omnivorous. Their primary diet consists mainly of meat.

They don't eat plants unless they have to, in the same sense of the donner party eating people. They didn't do it for kicks, Wolves don't have our intelligence anyway and couldn't create a food equal to the nutrients they would normally receive from eating meat. You're pretty misinformed on this subject.

swim 01-27-2008 06:38 PM

A lot of straight edge 90s hardcore bands are also vegan.




I personally don't have a problem with eating something that use to be alive and have feelings and thoughts and everything. I have a problem with corporations making money off of the slaughter of animals. Raising a chicken and eating=fine, store bought chicken=exploitation of life.

Predator 01-27-2008 06:39 PM

I would prefer to live on an natural diet. This includes meat. I could get all I need from a multi-vitamin and cardboard. I choose to eat a diet of plants and animals.

Predator 01-27-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 436548)
They don't eat plants unless they have to, in the same sense of the donner party eating people. They didn't do it for kicks, Wolves don't have our intelligence anyway and couldn't create a food equal to the nutrients they would normally receive from eating meat. You're pretty misinformed on this subject.

They are primarily carnivore, I agree. However, a true carnivore eats nothing but other animals. Take a snake. A snake would die before eating any plant. That is a 100% carnivore. A wolf can survive on a mixed diet. A wolf will eat a plant that will provide it with a certain vitamin. A true carnivore would not. A wolf is primarily carnivore, but it is an omnivore in the sense that it will eat plants as well as meat. A wolf can even survive with a proper diet excluding meat.

sleepy jack 01-27-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Predator (Post 436554)
They are primarily carnivore, I agree. However, a true carnivore eats nothing but other animals. Take a snake. A snake would die before eating any plant. That is a 100% carnivore. A wolf can survive on a mixed diet. A wolf will eat a plant that will provide it with a certain vitamin. A true carnivore would not. A wolf is primarily carnivore, but it is an omnivore in the sense that it will eat plants as well as meat. A wolf can even survive with a proper diet excluding meat.

Um no it wouldn't. It would be extremely malnourished and unhealthy without meat. Wolves aren't people, they can't create food with an equal amount of necessary vitamins.

Predator 01-27-2008 07:10 PM

Can you make, with no outside help, the necessary food to provide you with all the nourishment that your body needs? You have outside sources that manufacture the additional vitamins that you need. Outside sources determined that the missing vitamins could be provided without meat. If I were to take a wolf and feed it a diet of nothing but veggies with a multi vitamin to supplement the missing meat, it would thrive. It would willingly eat the veggies.


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