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Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 07:27 PM

Vegetarian Bands
 
I'm a vegetarian, and let me just state for the record, before anybody chimes in with your macho mumbo jumbo, I'm not a man. I mean I'm a male, but we all know that anyone who don't eat meat is a real p*ssy.

Anyway, I've compiled a list here of a few artists who share my view that slaughtering innocent animals for the mere purpose of human consumption is wrong. Now, keep in mind, these are bands that may have 1 or more member who are vegetarians. Some of the bands are all vegetarians, so:

RZA Madonna
Mos Def Moby
Nelly Sarah Mclachlan
Shania Twain Prince
Carrie Underwood Natalie Merchant
The Used The Ramones
Green Day R.E.M.
Nirvana The Cure
Pearl Jam Good Charlotte
My Chemical Romance Morrissey
AFI Bright Eyes
Peter Gabriel Radiohead
Metallica Weezer
Billy Idol Blur
Red Hot Chili Peppers Incubus
Rage Against the Machine The Bee Gees
Radiohead Paula Cole
Lenny Kravitz The Beatles
Michael Jackson Avril Lavigne
Coldplay Alanis Morrisette

........and the list goes on and on, especially there are many thrash and death metal bands who share the same belief.

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 07:30 PM

Bright Eyes shouldn't be on there. Conor is a pescatarian not a vegetarian.

savannah 01-26-2008 07:31 PM

i've never really thought about it,.....

pearl jam? really? thats interesting,...but i guess not to far of a leap considering vedder's political views,.....

interesting posts,...thanks

savannah 01-26-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 435862)
Bright Eyes shouldn't be on there. Conor is a pescatarian not a vegetarian.


whats that?

TheCaster 01-26-2008 07:33 PM

1. humans were meant to eat meat
2. some of these guys CANT eat meat (gall bladder problems and watnot)

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 435864)
whats that?

Someone who eats no meat with the exception of seafood.

savannah 01-26-2008 07:38 PM

being from texas, i can imagine not eating meat,.....
however,....to each their own,...

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCaster (Post 435865)
1. humans were meant to eat meat
2. some of these guys CANT eat meat (gall bladder problems and watnot)

Remember, this is a brainwashing technique used by the big beef industries that they employ on us. Aside from the fact that we don't need to eat meat(there are many other ways to attain the right kind of proteins and minerals and nutrients that the human body needs to survive other than eat meat) but also I have been over 1 year without meat, and I feel fine.
Remember when you were being constantly bombarded by those beef commercials back in the 90's? Well, that was right after NAFTA went through, and big business gained a monopoly on the farming and the beef industry. Also, at that time, vegetarians were starting to grow in #'s, and so it scared the beef industry. It makes sense, they had the money to do it, so every five minutes you'd get one of those 'Beef, it's what's for dinner' commercials.
What is the proof that human's need to eat meat? I don't eat meat. Are you saying that I'm dead, or I will drop dead any minute? Or is there some kind of government conspiracy, like Soylent Green, and they're putting cow liver in my lettuce, and pig guts in my brussel sprouts, and thank god for the conspiracy, or else I wouldn't be alive.

savannah 01-26-2008 07:45 PM

we as human, are omnivours,...or however the hell you spell it,......

BUT

eat meat, dont eat meat,....i dont really think your choice should matter to other people

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 435866)
Someone who eats no meat with the exception of seafood.

I'm not going to criticize Conor for being a pescatarian; that's pretty cool, but in a way, I almost wish people would not eat seafood, if only seafood. Think about it, when they dump the fish, and the shrimp, and prawns and all that on the boat, they die because they can't breathe. That's the human equivalent of drowning to death. In the slaughterhouses they employ less torturous techniques.

Comus 01-26-2008 07:48 PM

As long as you don't eat the yellow snow I don't care.

...sorry listening to ' right now.

Anyways, I hate vegetarians that keep imposing their beliefs on everyone and flaunting it, however it doesn't harm me if they're vegetarian. More meats for me I says. But seriously, does it really matter?

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 07:50 PM

What do you propose doing? Taking each individual fish and beating it to death? Seafood is extremely good for you though, in Japan where they eat tons of fish the people are proven to be healthier and live long. I don't blame him for eating fish and I think criticizing the way they catch them is ridiculous especially if you have no plausible alternatives.

savannah 01-26-2008 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 435879)
I'm not going to criticize Conor for being a pescatarian; that's pretty cool, but in a way, I almost wish people would not eat seafood, if only seafood. Think about it, when they dump the fish, and the shrimp, and prawns and all that on the boat, they die because they can't breathe. That's the human equivalent of drowning to death. In the slaughterhouses they employ less torturous techniques.

ok ok ok ,....wait a second,....
dont eat meat, i dont care,...but dont act like those who do, are barbaric, because we do so,....

i personally believe they are animals, and thus put her for my nourishment,.....
but thats MY choice,.....

i dont ostrizise you for yours

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 435880)
As long as you don't eat the yellow snow I don't care.

...sorry listening to ' right now.

Anyways, I hate vegetarians that keep imposing their beliefs on everyone and flaunting it, however it doesn't harm me if they're vegetarian. More meats for me I says. But seriously, does it really matter?

I don't go around in public demanding you quit eating meat, because I know when Christians do that to me (demand I think about their religion) it makes me uncomfortable, I was just making a thread I thought a few people might be interested in.
As far as vegetarianism, I'm not contending that we were never meant to eat meat. Hell, back in the day, when Indians killed buffaloes and other such examples, it was their primary source of food. Maybe, even God wanted them to do that. However, I do believe in a God, and I believe he wanted us to evolve, and so I'm just stating here that I think one of the ways he wanted us to evolve was to quit eating meat. So everyone who loves eating meat, go ahead, enjoy. I hardly see how people making a thread about bashing other people's religion is acceptable to you, but someone stating their idea that eating meat is wrong is some kind of heresy.

Comus 01-26-2008 08:00 PM

What, I never said you were imposing your beliefs! It's a forum for gods sakes you should have every right to make a thread about vegetarianism. My comments were directed at veggies in general, not you so there :p

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 435881)
What do you propose doing? Taking each individual fish and beating it to death? Seafood is extremely good for you though, in Japan where they eat tons of fish the people are proven to be healthier and live long. I don't blame him for eating fish and I think criticizing the way they catch them is ridiculous especially if you have no plausible alternatives.

Well Crowquill, the alternative would be for people to stop eating seafood, as I said I'm very healthy, everyone else could be to.

(Proverbial post from Savannah or comus, "Whoa, hang on here, buddy, I don't tell you how to live your life so......")

Response, OK hypothetically that would be an alternative, I'm not saying quit eating seafood, please continue to enjoy all your flounder, halibut, whale, shark, what have you, that is just the hypothetical scenario.

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 435888)
Well Crowquill, the alternative would be for people to stop eating seafood, as I said I'm very healthy, everyone else could be to.

You can get things from fish that will increase your health/life-span that you otherwise couldn't get. This isn't simply "I can be healthy without it" because you can be healthier with it.

savannah 01-26-2008 08:06 PM

is it just me, or is the word proverbial great,.....we should say that more,....
and procure too,...i really like that word as well

Inuzuka Skysword 01-26-2008 08:07 PM

Vegetables are harmless, innocent little plants. JOO R KILIN HRMLES LITL PLNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one!one

I mean seriously, it is either let these animals starve to death, or I hunt them by putting a bullet right through its heart, watching it pound to the muddy ground and then cut out its insides, but it is all dead while this is happening.

ghostonstage135 01-26-2008 08:11 PM

Don't forget Rise Against!.... the most annoying thing is when bands are veg or veagan and PETA follows them and preaches to their crowds at their shows. It is the most annoying thing in the world. One of the things I hate the most is going to a show and getting bombarded with somone's propaganda.

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 435892)
I mean seriously, it is either let these animals starve to death, or I hunt them by putting a bullet right through its heart, watching it pound to the muddy ground and then cut out its insides, but it is all dead while this is happening.

I'm sorry but how do you figure that one? They're going to starve to death if we don't hunt them? What?

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 435890)
You can get things from fish that will increase your health/life-span that you otherwise couldn't get. This isn't simply "I can be healthy without it" because you can be healthier with it.

Oh yeah, I forgot the second part of your post. Yes, omega 3 fatty acids are extremely
healthy for the human brain. They come from the fish skin. They are one of the most healthy things a human being can take. You might try a multivitamin, without the fatty acid (keep in mind, it might be full of chemicals), or an even better alternative would be Flaxseed. Flaxseed is the miracle of modern nutrition. It may even be healthier for you than omega 3 fatty acids.

Inuzuka Skysword 01-26-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 435894)
I'm sorry but how do you figure that one? They're going to starve to death if we don't hunt them? What?

Well they will MOST LIKELY overpopulate and there isn't enough food for them all to survive because of natural selection.

I mean, either way, what makes animals matter more then plants?

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 435897)
Well they will MOST LIKELY overpopulate and there isn't enough food for them all to survive because of natural selection.

I mean, either way, what makes animals matter more then plants?

Well, plants don't have physical feelings. It wouldn't be able to get the enjoyment out of life that an animal might. Since plants don't have brains, it is unlikely they have the sensory capacity to feel anything, although some people think they do.

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 435897)
Well they will MOST LIKELY overpopulate and there isn't enough food for them all to survive because of natural selection.

Hunting and the meat we actually eat are two pretty different scenarios. Which is why I'm so tired of meat-eaters pulling this argument, its just as bad as some of the crap vegetarians try and pull. The most bought meats are stuff like chickens, cows, turkeys, pigs etc, farm animals not deer and the other stuff people typically hunt.

ghostonstage135 01-26-2008 08:29 PM

I don't eat anything with cells cause it may feel pain. So I'm better than all of you!
:wave:

Inuzuka Skysword 01-26-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 435899)
Well, plants don't have physical feelings. It wouldn't be able to get the enjoyment out of life that an animal might. Since plants don't have brains, it is unlikely they have the sensory capacity to feel anything, although some people think they do.

Logically, animals have about the same odds as plants when it comes to having feelings. The only difference is the brain, but tell me, when was it proven that an animal brain operates the same way a human brain does.

And don't take all of this the wrong way. I don't hate vegans or anything. I just don't understand why the limiting of your diet to plants does anything to help this earth.

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Hunting and the meat we actually eat are two pretty different scenarios. Which is why I'm so tired of meat-eaters pulling this argument, its just as bad as some of the crap vegetarians try and pull. The most bought meats are stuff like chickens, cows, turkeys, pigs etc, farm animals not deer and the other stuff people typically hunt.
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I understand. Again, though I don't understand how we can disregard plants like they are nothing, but act like animals are equal to humans. Plus these animals are not innocent, by your standards. All kinds of animals we eat, eat all kinds of innocent organisms.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 01-26-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 435902)
Logically, animals have about the same odds as plants when it comes to having feelings. The only difference is the brain, but tell me, when was it proven that an animal brain operates the same way a human brain does.

And don't take all of this the wrong way. I don't hate vegans or anything. I just don't understand why the limiting of your diet to plants does anything to help this earth.

Humans>animals(non homo sapien)>plant. If I said that to a Jainist, I'd be dead wrong.
You're right, the human brain is much more complex, and able to distinguish many more emotions than a monkey, or a dog. Therefore, I do consider humans greater than animals. I still don't think we have the right to do whatever we want with them. Think of it like a metaphor, this earth is our earth. We are given dominion over it for a short time. We are meant to respect it while we are here. People who litter aren't right, just because this is their planet. I consider the creatures of this planet to be as precious as the planet itself. So, even if we have dominion over this planet, it still comes with responsibility. The only emotion animals have been proven to feel are love, anger, fear, and sadness. Humans on top of that feel guilt, greed, embarassment, all of which are fear or love based, but nonetheless they feel a much larger plethora of emotions. Plants respond to sunlight, and we know they are a living thing, we know they grow, but they are exempt from an indistinguishable personality that an animal may have. Also, as we said, they don't have a brain, so we know they don't have physical feelings, and it's very unlikely they have emotions, and Jainists believe plants have a soul, and maybe they do, but I consider animals more worthy of life because of the defining characteristics I described above.

TheCaster 01-26-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 435875)
Remember, this is a brainwashing technique used by the big beef industries that they employ on us. Aside from the fact that we don't need to eat meat(there are many other ways to attain the right kind of proteins and minerals and nutrients that the human body needs to survive other than eat meat) but also I have been over 1 year without meat, and I feel fine.
Remember when you were being constantly bombarded by those beef commercials back in the 90's? Well, that was right after NAFTA went through, and big business gained a monopoly on the farming and the beef industry. Also, at that time, vegetarians were starting to grow in #'s, and so it scared the beef industry. It makes sense, they had the money to do it, so every five minutes you'd get one of those 'Beef, it's what's for dinner' commercials.
What is the proof that human's need to eat meat? I don't eat meat. Are you saying that I'm dead, or I will drop dead any minute? Or is there some kind of government conspiracy, like Soylent Green, and they're putting cow liver in my lettuce, and pig guts in my brussel sprouts, and thank god for the conspiracy, or else I wouldn't be alive.

Im saying the only reason your living without meat is through modern technology.. 2000 years ago if you didnt eat meat your were malnurished.. most vegetarians are malnurished and dont have the physical endurance of ominvores..

Lizzie 01-26-2008 10:53 PM

I personally think eating meat is wrong and disguisting, but I know people will never ever stop it. I've been a vegatiarian for almost 3 years now, and props to anyone else who is. Meat IS murder

savannah 01-26-2008 10:57 PM

i have a question for you veggs,....

typlical day,...
what do you eat?

Lizzie 01-26-2008 10:59 PM

Um, lots healthy vegatables, and whatnot. Pretty much anything else in the world really, just not meat. Can't really be picky

savannah 01-26-2008 11:01 PM

i understand that,...i just cant imagine my life without meat,....which is why i ask

Lizzie 01-26-2008 11:02 PM

It's not too hard honestly. I actually never even like the taste of meat before, so it wasnt hard for me. But there are soo many other things to eat that dont involve the slaughtering of innocent beings.....although it can be hard to keep your werigt up

savannah 01-26-2008 11:04 PM

i just dont think i could give up bacon,.....
or tacos

Comus 01-26-2008 11:05 PM

What About The Poor Defenseless Plants, They Don't Ever Stand A Chance, They Can't Hide Run Or Fight Back.

Lizzie 01-26-2008 11:07 PM

Maybe if they had a brain, or if they could think or feel...

savannah 01-26-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus (Post 435966)
What About The Poor Defenseless Plants, They Don't Ever Stand A Chance, They Can't Hide Run Or Fight Back.


what do you think scare crows are for

sleepy jack 01-26-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCaster (Post 435924)
Im saying the only reason your living without meat is through modern technology.. 2000 years ago if you didnt eat meat your were malnurished.. most vegetarians are malnurished and dont have the physical endurance of ominvores..

Yeah it's not 2000 years ago though we've advanced as a society. We don't practice incest anymore nor we do we shit in the streets. I think if a person chooses to leave certain barbaric practices behind no one should get all pissy with them for it. Also plants and animals are entirely different species, this is why these arguments are stupid. Both sides bring up the most stupid points to justify their own personal dietary habits.

Predator 01-27-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 435954)
Meat IS murder


No, meat is good eatin'. Taking a human life is murder.
Then they turn to meat, and even that might be good eatin' :rofl::rofl:.


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