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Chula Vista 01-15-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225318)
But "big softy" includes being okay with animals dying for food when you could just have a salad, yes? And unless you're a sociopath that's probably because that's normalized to you.

The most recent USA poll in 2018 found that about 5% of Americans identified as vegetarian. I'd wager a very large number of the 95% of meat eaters also love animals.

That a couple hundred million sociopaths just here in Merica!
:eek:

The Batlord 01-15-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2225323)
The most recent USA poll in 2018 found that about 5% of Americans identified as vegetarian. I'd wager a very large number of the 95% of meat eaters also love animals.

That a couple hundred million sociopaths just here in Merica!
:eek:

Me: *logical statement*

Chula: *monkey noises*

Chula Vista 01-15-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225326)
Me: logical statement

Chula: monkey noises

Dude, you want black and white.
EAT MEAT = LACKS EMPATHY TOWARDS ANIMALS

Not the way it is in the real world for many - deal with it instead of trying to dump it in my lap.

Trollheart 01-15-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225316)
A society predominantly of meat eaters? You don't think being raised from birth in a society full of burger eaters has shaped your attitudes on eating meat and the value of animal life?

This is pure bull. You think every vet is a veggie? You think every animal lover recoils from meat? You're trying to make the issue black and white and it's not. It's completely disinegenuous to say that if you eat meat you value animal life less. There could be a zillion veggies and animals would still get hunted and killed for meat, because no way will the world ever be totally veg, and once there are people who want to eat meat there's an industry to supply that demand. Being a veggie doesn't save animals; it just means you don't have to feel you have to take responsibility for their deaths.

And there are shades of nuance. I eat chicken but I'd never eat dog or cat. I can't say I love chickens or that I don't feel momentary sadness if I look at a chicken burger or sausage and remember it was once an animal, but I'll be damned if I'm going veg. I hate veg. That does not make me less of a valuer of animal life than a veggie. A lot of them also eschew meat for health reasons, not moral ones.

Chula Vista 01-15-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2225329)
This is pure bull.

It makes me so warm and tingly inside when we fully agree on something!

:love::love::love:

Lucem Ferre 01-15-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225318)
But "big softy" includes being okay with animals dying for food when you could just have a salad, yes? And unless you're a sociopath that's probably because that's normalized to you.

Yes.

You have a very uncomfortable point.

Chula Vista 01-15-2023 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225318)
you're a sociopath that's probably because that's normalized to you.

Here's one for you to explain to me.

Why is it that in America the most pro-life/anti-abortion states are also the leaders in capital punishment?

Lucem Ferre 01-15-2023 09:35 AM

Why did you quote him out of context?

Chula Vista 01-15-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2225338)
Why did you quote him out of context?

Just to get his attention.

Lucem Ferre 01-15-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2225339)
Just to get his attention.

https://media.tenor.com/VsikYLRIP0EAAAAC/jay-z-okay.gif


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