Questions for conservatives (African, quote)

~~Gates_of_Iscariot~~ · 02-21-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by youzuck

Wow, tough guy. He doesn't follow laws he doesn't want to follow.

doesnt make you tough
obviously

im not going to kill someone.
but im not going to pay taxes if i can avoid it.

~~The Unfan~~ · 02-21-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

And funny you should mention that. Know who else doesn't agree with that? Libratarians, Aranchists, or Conservatives. Read something about William F Buckley and get back to me. Unless of course he's only a quasi-conservative or whatever the hell it is you use to save face.

Senior or junior? I don't know much about what senior's stances were but junior is for the legalization of drugs despite being originally against it. Aside from that I don't really know his reasoning.

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And not so you could hop on the public airwaves and be shocking because you're attention starved.

I'm pretty sure that was meant to be protected. It is just speech after all.

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Originally Posted by people

Words about slavery

They openly traded themselves to us. We may have captured a few, and I'll agree to that being horrible. However, for the most part they dealt with slave trading too, so to pin it on the white man is completely unfair. As far as slavery goes, it is only bad because and if it goes against the choice of the slave. If the slave has no problem with the slave/master relationship than I don't view it as bad.

Barnard17 · 02-22-2008, 11:13 AM

Slavery was pretty abhorrent, there's no way you can spin that otherwise. There were some fair slave owners, but they were few and far between. You are, however, correct in noting that often Africans would capture those of other and even their own tribes people and sell them to the white man, so the popular assumption that slavery was white man's domain is false.

tkpb938 · 02-22-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

They openly traded themselves to us. We may have captured a few, and I'll agree to that being horrible. However, for the most part they dealt with slave trading too, so to pin it on the white man is completely unfair. As far as slavery goes, it is only bad because and if it goes against the choice of the slave. If the slave has no problem with the slave/master relationship than I don't view it as bad.

Ummm who the hell would be happy being a slave even if you were treated somewhat close to fair?

Inuzuka Skysword · 02-22-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Ummm who the hell would be happy being a slave even if you were treated somewhat close to fair?

Peasants back in the feudal ages were fine with it and they were pretty much slaves.

Barnard17 · 02-22-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Ummm who the hell would be happy being a slave even if you were treated somewhat close to fair?

Status perception. People outside of the monastery regard the behaviours of nuns and monks to be absurd and far from fair, that doesn't mean the nuns and monks don't see justification in their actions.

~~The Unfan~~ · 02-22-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Ummm who the hell would be happy being a slave even if you were treated somewhat close to fair?

We work based on a bartering system. If your worth is $7.25 an hour and a business doesn't want to pay you $7.25 they'll either try to barter down your price or not employ you. If your worth is shelter than you'd work for free provided they give you a place to stay. I don't really see whats so absurd about this notion at all.

tkpb938 · 02-22-2008, 11:15 PM

Theres a big f***in' difference between working for shelter and having no rights whatsoever.

ProggyMan · 02-22-2008, 11:19 PM

Uh, slavery doesn't mean not having rights.

~~The Unfan~~ · 02-23-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Theres a big f***in' difference between working for shelter and having no rights whatsoever.

I agree with what you say, just not how you say it.

02-22-2008, 11:13 AM	#43 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	Slavery was pretty abhorrent, there's no way you can spin that otherwise. There were some fair slave owners, but they were few and far between. You are, however, correct in noting that often Africans would capture those of other and even their own tribes people and sell them to the white man, so the popular assumption that slavery was white man's domain is false.

02-22-2008, 11:15 PM	#48 (permalink)
tkpb938 Lvl 70 Troll Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunny Phoenix Posts: 482	Theres a big f***in' difference between working for shelter and having no rights whatsoever.

02-22-2008, 11:19 PM	#49 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Uh, slavery doesn't mean not having rights.