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Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-28-2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 474370)
i'm just trying to get you to see that you're acting like them.

That isn't true.
FoxNews doesn't sit around all day and talk about how NPR or MSNBC has a bias toward the left. If they did, then, I would be acting like them.

They constantly question Barack Obama's character, by talking about people he has known over the years.
So, if I were to rant tirelessly about how John McCain has been friendly with, and accepted an endorsement from Pastor Hagee, a man who claims that recent devastating earthquakes In Israel claiming several fatalities were due to our lax stance on the anti-homosexuality movement, for president, then I would be acting like them.

Aside from pointing out a media bias, I am also stating that I think issues are the most important thing, and I find it strange that Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity have nothing better to do on their show than talk about how much Obama's character should be in question because of his relationship with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They never really have anything good to say about their own candidates. It's all about tearing down the other side. I haven't engaged in tearing down the R's candidates, and somehow, me simply pointing out that's what the R does to the L is engaging in childlike behavior.

TheBig3 04-28-2008 03:59 PM

No one thinks Fox is fair and balanced.
We know their partisan to the right.
And O'reilly mentions a left leaning bias all day long. You must not actually watch fox news.

sleepy jack 04-28-2008 04:01 PM

Fox news is a joke.


right-track 04-28-2008 04:07 PM

The image Fox News has in the U.K. is pretty poor, especially since their coverage of the initial stages of the invasion of Iraq.
Propaganda disguised as news.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-28-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 474377)
No one thinks Fox is fair and balanced.
We know their partisan to the right.
And O'reilly mentions a left leaning bias all day long. You must not actually watch fox news.

Yes, we're to believe that somehow, because certain media outlets cover *** right's parades, or some journalists think stricter gun control laws are necessary, gives them a left leaning bias.
The fact is that the media is a business first and foremost. We'd like to believe it's all about truth and delivering the news.
I find the general reason behind most stories, like the sentimental irrational ratings ploys on local news, to be pretty despicable.
But when you're talking about FoxNews, it delves into a whole new realm of sickness. Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes are the owners, and they basically have one agenda and one agenda only:
To keep Republicans in office, for the sake of lowering their own tax burdens, and the tax burdens of their billionaire friends. I doubt Rupert Murdoch even has much stake in the right wing ideology, with the exception of that one issue alone. It's clear that they will stop at nothing to bash the Democrat's, because no matter how terrible of a president Bush was, and is, they will continually heap praise on him, and no matter how great of a president Obama is-(the man could pull out of Iraq, stabilize our economy, improve foreign relations, and fight for the middle/lower class), and they would still find ways to belittle him.

The Unfan 04-28-2008 04:47 PM

I don't see reporting with a bias to be a bad thing. In fact, I'm not even sure if you can have a non-bias news report. You're bound to take sides and have a slight slant on your stance. That aside I pretty much agree with the harpooning of Fox as a right wing propaganda machine.

mr dave 04-28-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 474375)
That isn't true.
FoxNews doesn't sit around all day and talk about how NPR or MSNBC has a bias toward the left. If they did, then, I would be acting like them.

They constantly question Barack Obama's character, by talking about people he has known over the years.
So, if I were to rant tirelessly about how John McCain has been friendly with, and accepted an endorsement from Pastor Hagee, a man who claims that recent devastating earthquakes In Israel claiming several fatalities were due to our lax stance on the anti-homosexuality movement, for president, then I would be acting like them.

Aside from pointing out a media bias, I am also stating that I think issues are the most important thing, and I find it strange that Bill O' Reilly and Sean Hannity have nothing better to do on their show than talk about how much Obama's character should be in question because of his relationship with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. They never really have anything good to say about their own candidates. It's all about tearing down the other side. I haven't engaged in tearing down the R's candidates, and somehow, me simply pointing out that's what the R does to the L is engaging in childlike behavior.

you're pushing your own agenda same as they are. you're just being indirect about it and changing the 'point' of your thread every time someone has challenged your views. how is it that your broad negative generalizations about news media and the CEOs that govern those outlets any different than the behavior you condemn in the above post? will you actually address what i pointed out or just move on to your 'really real for real' point?

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-28-2008 04:56 PM

It's not a right wing bias or a left wing bias , it's a supporting whoever Rupert Murdoch thinks will make him the most money bias.

As the Tory party found out when he instructed his media outlets to support Labour and Tony Blair after years of supporting Thatcher.

mr dave 04-28-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 474389)
I don't see reporting with a bias to be a bad thing. In fact, I'm not even sure if you can have a non-bias news report. You're bound to take sides and have a slight slant on your stance. That aside I pretty much agree with the harpooning of Fox as a right wing propaganda machine.

agreed. even if the journalist was completely neutral their choice of vocabulary used to report an incident will affect the personal interpretation of the event.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-28-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 474392)
you're pushing your own agenda same as they are. you're just being indirect about it and changing the 'point' of your thread every time someone has challenged your views. how is it that your broad negative generalizations about news media and the CEOs that govern those outlets any different than the behavior you condemn in the above post? will you actually address what i pointed out or just move on to your 'really real for real' point?

LOL, no I won't move on to my really real for real point, because I have already stated the point of this thread. It was to point out that FoxNews is extremely biased toward the R, and most of the media in general is biased toward the right. I found it necessary to bring this up, because they are always purporting there is a liberal bias. Also, I did a very good job of this, by saying that they're constantly attacking Bill Ayers, someone who Barrack Obama has occasionally been in the same place with, by saying he's a terrorist, when in fact he was just an anarchist at worst. They have also called him a 'killer', when he has never killed anyone, and also the only people the Weather Underground has killed have inadvertently been members of their own party.


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