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Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-03-2008 04:06 PM

Why are people fat?
 
I have several theories of why I think people are fat.

1. Genetical/Hereditary problem
2. Certain folks in our society need to look down on others, and so the more submissive types accomodate them in this strange manner.
3. Junk food/Fattening food is much cheaper than healthy food.
4. Simple lack of self-esteem, and trying to fill some kind of void.
5. There are many people who were once young and athletic, and the way they enjoyed sports was through intimidating others, rather than just playing for the love of the game. Once these people start getting on in years, and think others can intimidate them, they lose a big part of their identity, and suffer identity problems and become fat.

You may disagree with this, but I have witnessed first hand, "cool" people making light of others' weight. It sickens me. Are people doing fat people a service by noticing their problem, or showing them pity? I think we should be more compassionate towards these people, because we are largely products of our environment, and if someone is fat, and has low self esteem, there is probably a very good reason for it. But, as I said above some people are probably fat, because they did it to themselves. Either way, it seems counterproductive to act really nice to their face, and talk sh*t about them behind their back. We are supposed to be a free country. Why can't we let other people be?

sweet_nothing 05-03-2008 04:07 PM

:rofl: this beats any thread that savannah has done

Alfred 05-03-2008 04:13 PM

Is this a debate?

Sparky 05-03-2008 04:15 PM

I don't think we have a right to make "fun" of other people who are fat, but your also doing them an injustice if you don't try to steer them in the right direction.
But what it comes down to is simply, lack of exercise and too much **** food. It's common knowledge, there isn't much debate going on as to what the causes are...


People don't need to be snacking, and certainly don't need the ridiculous serving sizes we have here in the U.S.
I was at the 5-8 club the other day, just looking at somebody eat a "Juicy Luicy" and was disgusted.
Maybe i will have a different opinion once i age and my metabolism slows down.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-03-2008 04:18 PM

A lot of them are fat, because they can only afford to eat garbage foods, but as for other people who are fat, I don't know what we can do to steer them in the right direction. If you so much as mention their weight to them, you might come off as patronizing, and I can understand if they get defensive, because I don't know them. I shouldn't pass judgment. Like, I said, there are many different reasons people are fat, so how could you help them, if you don't know what the problem is?

adidasss 05-03-2008 04:46 PM

People are fat because they like to eat.

mr dave 05-03-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476151)
I have several theories of why I think people are fat.

1. Genetical/Heretical problem
2. Certain folks in our society need to look down on others, and so the more submissive types accomodate them in this strange manner.
3. Junk food/Fattening food is much cheaper than healthy food.
4. Simple lack of self-esteem, and trying to fill some kind of void.
5. There are many people who were once young and athletic, and the way they enjoyed sports was through intimidating others, rather than just playing for the love of the game. Once these people start getting on in years, and think others can intimidate them, they lose a big part of their identity, and suffer identity problems and become fat.

You may disagree with this, but I have witnessed first hand, "cool" people making light of others' weight. It sickens me. Are people doing fat people a service by noticing their problem, or showing them pity? I think we should be more compassionate towards these people, because we are largely products of our environment, and if someone is fat, and has low self esteem, there is probably a very good reason for it. But, as I said above some people are probably fat, because they did it to themselves. Either way, it seems counterproductive to act really nice to their face, and talk sh*t about them behind their back. We are supposed to be a free country. Why can't we let other people be?

i asked for a ****ing alien theory thread as your next 'debate'. jackass!

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-03-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 476164)
People are fat because they like to eat.

Yes, but why don't a lot of those people like to exercise? Could it be that our psychological warfare and bullying have caused them great reticence?

adidasss 05-03-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476167)
Yes, but why don't a lot of those people like to exercise? Could it be that our psychological warfare and bullying have caused them great reticence?

Yah, maybe they're just not very vain and prefer to enjoy life...*shrug*

This thread is really dumb. :|

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-03-2008 05:05 PM

Wanting to participate and enjoy in exercise isn't vain you fatf*ck. It's healthy.
For instance, I love exercising, but I generally do it alone, because I find that where most people congregate to exercise is generally a place that is set up to congratulate a few and laugh at others. I don't really enjoy this or find it beneficial to the over all health of society.

simplephysics 05-03-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476171)
Wanting to participate and enjoy in exercise isn't vain you fatf*ck. It's healthy.
For instance, I love exercising, but I generally do it alone, because I find that where most people congregate to exercise is generally a place that is set up to congratulate a few and laugh at others. I don't really enjoy this or find it beneficial to the over all health of society.

But it's not vain when you start threads asking why people are fat? Considering most people work their asses off already to make ends meet, it should be understandable that they don't have the luxury of taking the time to excerise. And it shouldn't be considered a bad thing that not everyone gets their kicks from physical exercise.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-03-2008 05:20 PM

I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge, and doctor recommended that exercise be a vital part of your weekly activity. The fact is that it doesn't matter whether you enjoy exercise or not. You feel called to do it by your body. You're hesitant at first, and then it's not bad once you get into it. I'm just putting it out there that I think a lot of people feel repressed from exercising and generally feeling good.

sleepy jack 05-04-2008 12:08 AM

My favorite thing about the original post's reasons for fatness is none of them is the fault of the over-eater.

Predator 05-04-2008 12:21 AM

Of course it isn't the fault of the over-eater. Nobody is capable of causing themselves harm. When you buy coffee, you shouldn't expect it to be hot. So when you spill it in your lap, its only natural to sue the vendor for not advising you that its hot. I think we should sue god for not putting a warning label on us saying that we would get fat if we eat to much. And if I whack off thinking about my sister, its her fault for being hot.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-04-2008 01:51 AM

I did say that in some cases it's their fault. why don't you just close it back up, you fat bastards. Nobody's going to see my point, that we are a very oppressive society, because your reason 'oh well, I don't do that, and none of my friends do that, so it must be true of every other area in the U.S. and the world,' Maybe though, someone out there knows what I mean, and they realize that I am willing to help them by doing absolutely nothing. My point here is that if we leave people the f*ck alone, they will be better off. But we don't have a law about leaving people the f*ck alone. Someone can get right up in your face, and cuss at you, and be a total d*ck, and isn't breaking any laws. And because people no longer have any sense of moral decency, the foundation is starting to crack.

sleepy jack 05-04-2008 02:46 AM

CNN.com - Transcripts

I thought some of you might find this interesting. John Schneider talks about being the fat kid and how someone sitting him down and saying "you're not going to be an actor if you're fat" motivated him to be skinny.

Here's that bit:

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SCHNEIDER: Nine in the morning. He said, you know, you're really fat, John. You're fat. And I said, so look, everybody -- there's a lot of people around here. You know, there's not many Franco Columboes (ph) at Six Flags. So, everybody's fat. And he said, yes, but you tell me you want to be an actor. You tell me you want to be...

KING: Oh, you did want to be an actor.

SCHNEIDER: I started when I was eight years old. So, you tell me you want to be this person that's on television and the movies. How many fat people -- this is 1976 -- how many fat movie stars can you name? And I'd go hmmm. And he said, and let's face it, you already played all the Zero Mostel (ph) roles. In theater you can, because I had done, "A Funny Thing Happened on The Way To The Forum."

adidasss 05-04-2008 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476171)
Wanting to participate and enjoy in exercise isn't vain you fatf*ck. It's healthy.

Right, people don't really do it to look good...:rolleyes:

Incidentally I'm about 20 pounds underweight and exercise regularly...;)

The Unfan 05-04-2008 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476373)
But we don't have a law about leaving people the f*ck alone. Someone can get right up in your face, and cuss at you, and be a total d*ck, and isn't breaking any laws.

They also have the right to not listen and walk away.

tkpb938 05-04-2008 06:49 AM

This is soooo effing stupid...

mr dave 05-04-2008 08:04 AM

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the real world is mean WAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-04-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 476421)
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the real world is mean WAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll level with you; I get by pretty easy in the world. I also notice the plight of other, less fortunate individuals and have compassion for them. I guess that's pretty rare in society nowdays.

Duke Of Slander 05-04-2008 09:45 AM

Well there are 3 things that necessarily cause obesity imo.

1. Environment. Face it, we live in a consumer society where healthy foods are expensive and unhealthy are cheap. Big Cooperations want you to buy cheap foods to increase they're revenue and people want to spend as less as they can on food and it still be "tasty" (I personally hate junk food, give me a thing for fresh fruit any day.)

2. The Strange Paradox of the Image Culture. Everything is based on looks now a days. All these skinny idols that barely any of the population can achieve drive some people to feel like they arent good enough because they dont look like that. Therefore they go to step 1 and get something cheap to fill the void.

3. People's Self esteem. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. Thats all I hear come out of people's mouthes now a days. People are constantly talking about eachother and that gets everyone down. How sad. People are too receptive of other's criticism and feel the need to comfort themselves by... food? You know I could do an interesting paper on this, food eating as a means of comfort.

I personally could give 2 ****s as to what people say about me and I don't talk **** behind people's backs. Its all about body image and people caring too much now adays. Its quit sad.

jackhammer 05-04-2008 09:47 AM

Who says that fat people are less fortunate? If there is ever a food shortage they will last longer than us skinny ones!

Rainard Jalen 05-04-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 476164)
People are fat because they like to eat.

lol. You totally beat me to it. Gosh darn you!

mr dave 05-04-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 476431)
I'll level with you; I get by pretty easy in the world. I also notice the plight of other, less fortunate individuals and have compassion for them. I guess that's pretty rare in society nowdays.

my bad i didn't recognize your altruistic intentions. you definitely deserve one of these for your continued efforts.

15Steps 05-04-2008 04:03 PM

the interweb

Dr_Rez 05-04-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 476436)
Who says that fat people are less fortunate? If there is ever a food shortage they will last longer than us skinny ones!

Not only that but many fat people dont care there fat.

Laces Out Dan! 05-04-2008 05:10 PM

There is no reason anyone should be fat. I understand some people have it a lot harder than others because of the difference in metabolisms. I've been an athlete my whole life and weight has always been something I've tried to put on more than take off. But for people who struggle with their weight all they have to do is watch their dieta bit and go out and get their hearts going above their target heart rate for gains to their cardiovascular systems.

chiron 05-05-2008 11:00 AM

Everyone knows that breaking pimples and scratching itches just makes it worse but why does it feel so good to do it? Does the pleasure one gets from straining the pus and blackheads from your nose justify the resulting cosmetic catastrophe.

All we can be sure that there are some times when the ugly people are happier than the rest of us.

NSW 05-08-2008 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiron (Post 476676)
Everyone knows that breaking pimples and scratching itches just makes it worse but why does it feel so good to do it? Does the pleasure one gets from straining the pus and blackheads from your nose justify the resulting cosmetic catastrophe.

All we can be sure that there are some times when the ugly people are happier than the rest of us.

That was pretty gross. Also, I don't recall anyone equating being fat with being ugly. That was harsh and unnecessary.

I can say from personal experience that for the most part you all are right. People are just fat because they like to eat AND they don't exercise enough. They go hand in hand. Despite what I've posted in other threads, I actually eat pretty decently, a lot of whole foods and tons of water. But I'm still overweight. And when I was exercising I was dropping the pounds like nobody's business. But as soon as I stopped, it came to a screeching halt. Mostly, people are just fat because they make poor lifestyle choices. And while it is true that junk food tends to be cheaper in most cases, I think the real issue is just that it's more readily accessible and requires less preparation than buying whole foods that you have to prepare (which can also be acquired at a reasonable price). Most people (especially in America) are just too lazy and/or tired from work to make a decent meal anymore. Also, exercise can be incorporated into pretty much anyone's lifestyle. You don't necessarily have to put time aside to do it.

It just takes effort people. That's really what it boils down to.

mr dave 05-08-2008 08:27 AM

the best is when i see someone at a fast food place getting deep fried whatever with extra large fries with cheese and gravy and an extra burger AND a diet coke.

Piss Me Off 05-08-2008 08:29 AM

Maybe they just like Diet Coke? Mmm fizzy water. :s

Dr_Rez 05-08-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 477655)
the best is when i see someone at a fast food place getting deep fried whatever with extra large fries with cheese and gravy and an extra burger AND a diet coke.

That reminds me of the Tenacious D skit where Jack and Kyle order a 5 piece instead of 6 piece nugget meal and half coke half diet coke.

Whatsitoosit 05-08-2008 10:43 AM

People are fat because they enjoy eating and don't enjoy exercising.
I also believe that Crisco is to blame for most of the weight/health issues in the world circa 1911. The introduction of hydrogenated oils, which is a man made oil that is the equivalent to edible plastic (it was used to make candles before it was realized it could be used in food as a cheap substitute that also acted as a preservative). The human body takes longer to break it down and since it is a foreign substance it latches itself onto various parts of the body (other then the stomach) giving you pouches in the neck, under the arms, etc.

I've been reading ingredients since learning of this oil and if I see the words Hydrogenated I don't buy it. Here is the wiki article on it... interesting/scary stuff.

jackhammer 05-08-2008 05:34 PM

Hydrogenated Oil is banned in the U.S? It has got bad press here (u.k) recently and has virtually been eradicated from processed foods now.

There is a definite problem though with access to better quality foods. In my lunch hour I would kill for decent nutritous food instead of a Burger/ Sandwich/ Pastie. The amount of fast food restaurants in places like Italy is so low due to their access to natural foods, why do we have to be little America?

Whatsitoosit 05-08-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 477848)
Hydrogenated Oil is banned in the U.S? It has got bad press here (u.k) recently and has virtually been eradicated from processed foods now.

There is a definite problem though with access to better quality foods. In my lunch hour I would kill for decent nutritous food instead of a Burger/ Sandwich/ Pastie. The amount of fast food restaurants in places like Italy is so low due to their access to natural foods, why do we have to be little America?

They are "s - l - o - w - l - y" removing hydrogenated oils from foods in America but it is still in a lot of foods so I wouldn't think it was banned... eventually I hope it is. It's bad enough watching fat intake and all but when you have to watch chemical intake it becomes too much.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 05-09-2008 03:07 PM

Everyone has a right to mold their body into any shape, no matter how massive, they want. If ya want to be fat, have a donut. Don't change just because society has certain superficial norms that "must be met."


But if you do choose to be fat, don't start crying and whining the day you realize you can't walk out your front door because you've eaten a roomful of Krispy Kremes. And don't come down on other people for being unhealthy until you learn how to put down the fork.

I guess what I'm saying is, be what you want to be, but don't be a hypocrite/little bitch/both about it.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-09-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 (Post 478115)


But if you do choose to be fat, don't start crying and whining the day you realize you can't walk out your front door because you've eaten a roomful of Krispy Kremes. And don't come down on other people for being unhealthy until you learn how to put down the fork.

I guess what I'm saying is, be what you want to be, but don't be a hypocrite/little bitch/both about it.

Same thing could be just as equally applied to alcoholics , junkies or anybody that abuses anything.
I've never heard anyone say to an alcoholic 'why don't you just drink cranberry juice instead of vodka' or 'why dont you go for a walk instead of shooting heroin' to a junkie.

mr dave 05-09-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 478117)
Same thing could be just as equally applied to alcoholics , junkies or anybody that abuses anything.
I've never heard anyone say to an alcoholic 'why don't you just drink cranberry juice instead of vodka' or 'why dont you go for a walk instead of shooting heroin' to a junkie.

that's because an alcoholic will beat you with his bottle and the junkie will stab you with his needle. 1 quick step, and unless fattie pulls a gun, you're clear.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-09-2008 07:13 PM

He could sit on you


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