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sleepy jack 05-04-2008 08:57 PM

Actually I was bored and checking the religions of all the presidents (looking for an atheist) and I don't think I saw catholic at all.

simplephysics 05-04-2008 09:21 PM

A puppy eating Catholic is still better than a homosexual athiest to the average American.

sweet_nothing 05-04-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill (Post 476595)
Actually I was bored and checking the religions of all the presidents (looking for an atheist) and I don't think I saw catholic at all.

JFK was irish catholic

sleepy jack 05-04-2008 09:59 PM

Religious Affiliation of U.S. Presidents * Religion

This is kind of shocking but at the same time it isn't. I don't think the figures are off on all of them, the vice presidents, congress, etc.

tkpb938 05-05-2008 07:19 AM

What is non-wasp.... Ya I'm retarded :(

chiron 05-05-2008 11:38 AM

I don't think that in the US, non-christian persons have a huge handicap if they downplay their own religion. I guess this could be extended to ethnicities and all sorts of minority groupings. Does that sound bigoted :P?

The obv. reason being that any non-neutral alignment that is is not the majority makes for a losing ballot :D

Zombeels 05-07-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 476224)
You really have an negatively exaggerrated view of America, don't you?

You're funny.

pheurton 05-08-2008 11:58 AM

Obama!

sleepy jack 05-08-2008 03:30 PM

Obviously

simplephysics 05-08-2008 04:06 PM

Some obscure evening news show had this guy on the other night and he was explaining how that it's mathematically impossible for Hillary to win the nom, yet she refuses to drop out of the race...? :/

ProggyMan 05-08-2008 08:43 PM

Do you live in the U.S.?

simplephysics 05-09-2008 07:30 AM

....yes.

pheurton 05-09-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill (Post 477792)
Obviously

bigot

ProggyMan 05-09-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses (Post 477991)
....yes.

Do you know what super delegates are?

simplephysics 05-10-2008 12:19 PM

I don't think the Democratic Party will pull out the super delegates to enable Hillary to win, that would upset too many people and stick a bad image on the party itself. And I suppose I should have been clearer when I posted that, the guy was talking about the popular votes.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-10-2008 03:31 PM

Hillary's only chances are banking on the hope that Michigan and Florida would count, and they've already ruled against that.
The only argument about her staying in the race is that the nomination process has forced millions of people to register which may not have otherwise happened.
I hope it's an Obama/Clinton ticket, and we could impair 2 prejudices with 1 stone.
It will be interesting to see after Clinton drops out how staunchly she supports Obama. She will:
1. Join his ticket
2. Support him from a partisan standpoint.
3. Attack him, and actually hope for a McCain victory, so she can run in 2012. That seems unlikely, but the way she composes herself sometimes, I wouldn't put it past her.

ProggyMan 05-10-2008 03:31 PM

They don't have a choice. You need 2,025 to win.

sleepy jack 05-10-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 478458)
3. Attack him, and actually hope for a McCain victory, so she can run in 2012. That seems unlikely, but the way she composes herself sometimes, I wouldn't put it past her.

You know I honestly wouldn't be surprised by that but I don't think there's many democrats that would be happy with her playing a hand in McCain victory. Assuming she did that and he won of course.

simplephysics 05-10-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill (Post 478464)
You know I honestly wouldn't be surprised by that but I don't think there's many democrats that would be happy with her playing a hand in McCain victory. Assuming she did that and he won of course.

I doubt she would go against the Party. During the last debate she said "we need to get a democrat in office" about 20 times. She'd support Obama.

Oh... and Clinton only leads Obama by 2 superdelegatewise now.

sleepy jack 05-10-2008 03:46 PM

Yeah but frankly I'd find it shocking if she started running around going Vote Obama after the way she's gone after him.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 05-10-2008 04:01 PM

Uh, it's the primaries, candidates naturally go after each other. This is tame compared to the Democratic primaries in '92. The amazing thing is that Obama has remained so committed to the issues.
I'm not sure how the superdelegates situation works. All I know is that several political experts have said she basically has no chance of winning, so I'm prepared to believe them.
I have to LOL at McCain. It almost seems like he tried to win the Republican nomination, so he could get a Democrat in office. So far, since he's been nominated he has said he will:
1. Continue the war in Iraq (extremely unpopular)
2. Possibly start a new war in Iran (any war would be unpopular, especially if we're already involved in another one.)
He has sought the endorsement of
1. Pastor Hagee - A homophic
2. Rod Parsley - Anti-Islam
If the Iraq War is the overriding issue in the next election, it would seem less than 30% of voters would vote for McCain, and among the few that support the war, many are conservatives, and McCain doesn't fare too well with them.
Looking at that, it wouldn't seem McCain stands a chance, but I'm not prepared to underestimate the R's hyperslanting, brainwashing machine.

simplephysics 05-11-2008 04:26 PM

YES

Hillary and Obama are tied in Super Delagate pledges as of now.

http://www.soundoffcolumn.com/images/obama-hillary.jpg


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