Most Unlikely to be President
 

We are supposed to be the most advanced society in the world today (U.S.A.) Then, why is it that many of us have such narrow views of personality traits which don't make you any less of a person?

Pretend for a moment that it is 2006, and we're unaware of who's running for president. (Or pretend it's 2008, and just don't say, 'well so and so's less likely to win, because they didn't get one of the major party nominations')
Who would be most unlikely to be voted President of the U.S.A.?

how do u think of these threads do smoke alot of pot?

If someone's unlikely to be president...then their presidency probably isn't going to be discussed. But um Nader I guess.

I didn't know we were supposed to be the most advanced..

I'm not sure of the question. So we don't know who any of the candidates are, but we need to pick who is the most unlikely?

I dunno, some homeless guy? A dude in prison? me? ashlee simpson? It could be anybody if they're aren't any candidates yet couldn't it?

This is a dumber thread than your fat people one.

Can you guys see the poll?
I voted a homosexual, although it's clear that none of the options other than non-wasp or woman, would have a fighting chance.

i still don't know WTF you're talking about

You really have an negatively exaggerrated view of America, don't you?

Oh there's a poll, this makes way way way more sense now. I'm going with homosexual because people still don't believe they should have many rights in many states. In order of likeliness though I'm going with...

Non-wasp>Woman>Atheist>Homosexual

I'm not really sure where to play pacifist to be honest. I'm actually not very sure of this order because it seems like people say one thing but think a totally different think. For instance my friend's parents we're totally cool with homosexuals...until my friend came out. Stuff like that makes me unsure of this. This was surprisingly much more difficult thinking about it then it appears on the surface.

Person of faith that's Non Christian: I think this ones too vague because it could be applied to like anything from Buddhism which I'd place as far more likely than say Satanism.

I find it's vice versa in most cases, but as for your point about religion, my thought is you wouldn't have a standing chance if you were Mormon, a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Bahai, really any religion other than some form of Christianity.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism
-Thomas Jefferson

That has nothing to do with what I said.

^It's basically a direct response to your post...

Well I agree I just think if you were a Mormon you would have a good deal more chance of getting elected than a Muslim would.

Also about the homosexual thing I understand it can happen in completely reverse where the parent's become to accept homosexuality because their child comes out but at the same time I think the idea's are similar there. You have a belief you put on for everyone and tell people but deep down you have it in you to think totally opposite of that belief. One is more of a revelation while the other's always been there but meh I can't explain this properly so I hope you get what I'm getting at.

I'm aware, but it still has nothing to do with what I said.

I told him his perception of America is exaggerated, and he responded with that.

It's really not in this case other cases maybe but not this one. A couple facts for you...

John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are all Christian, not exactly a coincidence if you go through the religious beliefs of all the past presidents you're going to find much more christians that non-christians.

The majority of the nation identifies themselves as christian.

And finally our motto is "In God We Trust"

It's pretty safe to say an atheist doesn't stand nearly as much as a chance running for President as a christian does and seeing as homosexuality is against christian beliefs they don't either.

So please explain what here is exaggerated.

Well, Mormons are more closely associated with being here than those others.
Although, I wouldn't see how a qualified candidate who was Muslim or Hindu would be any less qualified.
And I get sick of all these people calling into talk radio shows saying, "He's a Muslim," referring to Barrack Obama, or his pastor. It obviously isn't true, and if it was true, I don't see anything wrong with that. They're constantly using it in an inflaming, derogatory way.

Gah, Canadian culture interfering with my political posts again.

Apparently Barack Obama supports homosexuality, though. Not sure where I read that.

I'm not saying I agree with it at all or anything like that in fact I disagree but I've seen (many) Americans confuse Islam/Muslim/Terrorist before. I mean the fact they use it in a derogatory manner and no one says "Who cares?" just "He's not" really does say alot in itself.

A good deal of christians do too and the bible never says "kill homosexuals" or anything but there's a huge difference between supporting something and being something. If you were to be something like that you'd probably (at least in the current acceptance climate) find yourself less welcome than if you just supported it. I've seen homophobia pretty daily and some people (mostly religious wackos) are still pretty avidly against it. I mean in the 50s/60s/70s people we're still fighting for black/woman rights the idea of a black/woman president would've been considered completely crazy. Homosexuals are fighting for their rights now and it's a pretty similar idea.

I know, but I was responding to this:

The bible does say that, I am aware, but as you said, there are places that say "sex is meant for a man and woman". And there's something about "it is wrong for a man to lie down with another man".

Really, those Christians aren't following their religion very well.

Oh great , another Christians / Homosexuals argument.

Not had one of those for a couple of weeks.

Well, that's my last post in this thread. I've learned from past experiances, it's pointless arguing about these matters. 99.9 percent of the time, you're not going to change thier opinions.

The bible describes homosexuality as an abomination and says all homosexuals are going to hell. Look at what happened with Sodom and Gomorrah.

It's almost inevitable really.

You start a thread about American politics somewhere someone is going to bring up Christians and Homosexuality.

I should base a drinking game around it.

It may as well say that, since it already said it was wrong.

I'm done.

Well it's a pretty huge issue over here so...

It not mine as well say that, it DOES say that.

"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination" - Leviticus 18:22

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." - Leviticus 20:13

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." - 1st Corinthians. 6:9-10

Here are some Biblical contradictions:

ON THE PERMANENCY OF THE EARTH
"... the earth abideth for ever." -- Ecclesiastes 1:4
"... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." -- 2Peter 3:10

ON SEEING GOD
"... I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." -- Genesis 32:30
"No man hath seen God at any time..."-- John 1:18

ON DEALING WITH PERSONAL INJURY
"...thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. " -- Exodus 21:23-25
"...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." -- Matthew 5:39en God at any time..."-- John 1:18

ON CIRCUMCISION
"This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised." -- Genesis 17:10
"...if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." -- Galatians 5:2

ON FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS
"Honor thy father and thy mother..."-- Exodus 20:12
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. " -- Luke 14:26

And yet for some reason, many people want to take the Bible literally. Also, they profess that God was the author, and therefore it must be accurate, but isn't it so that Jesus was the only son of God, and since he didn't write it, how can they claim it is without error?

No one claims he's the author they say its the word of god and the people who wrote it had some divine experience where god told them what to write or it was written by the disciples who traveled basically everywhere with Jesus.

No, the New Testament wasn't started being written until around 100 A.D.

Nah it was much sooner then that but it was still AD. I think it was around 50ish AD. I don't know the explanation behind that and frankly I've never cared to study the history behind the bible.

I know that it says those things.

Well uh...then why are you trying to say the bible isn't against homosexuality? I mean if you're saying don't do it, calling it an abomination and eternally damning it then obviously you don't agree with it.

I see that it was started around then, I think Matthew and the other main books that talk about Jesus were started around 100 A.D. Anyway, you see my point that The Bible should not be taken so literally? The only reason people cite those passages is due to their own personal insecurity.

What? The Bible IS against homosexuality. Where did I say it wasn't. Show me, and I will fix it.

Edit: Found it, sorry, must not have been thinking when I was posting that. I do that a lot. Fixed it.

i want some ****ing aliens mother****ers!!!

Thats actually all congress debates.

Its the "support our troops"/"no blood for oil" debate of the senate floor...what do you talk about in other countries?

Tea and football mate

****, I just listened to Morning Bell/Amenesiac and got your username!

It's a tie between a Homosexual and an Athiest.

i only read the first page but im getting the idea that you guys dont understand what hes saying, i do. but im not voting cuase i think all of those things have no chance in winning except non-wasp cause im not sure what he means by that one

If a woman had no chance of winning Hillary Clinton wouldn't have gotten as far as she has. A non-wasp is pretty simple, someone who isn't a white anglo-saxon protestant.

the wasp one kills me because theres been one or two catholics in there, haven't there?