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Old 06-17-2011, 03:56 AM   #411 (permalink)
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my mother is from Cebu. i visited only once but i am proud of our heritage
thanks for your explanations and i do really appreciate everything you posted.
anyway, really? you're from Cebu once? so have you tried Lechon? you should visit here more often.

i had a friend before and he was half American, half Italian and half Filipino and he always visits Cebu every twice a year even though he now resides in Chicago.

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so I guess the Virgin is saying a Christian God is above Buddha, Vishnu, Ganesh etc?
i'm going to respond as briefly as possible to you:

God Commandment #1: I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:59 AM   #412 (permalink)
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i'm going to respond as briefly as possible to you:

God Commandment #1: I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
thanks for clarifying something I already know and concur with djchameleon

can you now quote me a scripture (Catholic or Protestant) that said God specially made animals for man to eat?
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what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:02 AM   #413 (permalink)
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i have studied both the Catholic and Protestant bibles, there's nothing in the Apocrypha (sorry, we Protestants call it that) also even suggesting God made animals exclusively for human consumption
agree, there is nothing on the bible that says animals were created exclusively for human consumption but because he came from my mother's country, i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. based on his last post though, it aint working.
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thanks for clarifying something I already know and concur with djchameleon

can you now quote me a scripture (Catholic or Protestant) that said God specially made animals for man to eat?
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"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness," says God in Genesis 1:26 "and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
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huh? "dominion" means to "rule"

not to "eat"

and that Scripture was before the fall of Adam

check what God said after Adam fell
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what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.
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huh? "dominion" means to "rule"

not to "eat"

and that Scripture was before the fall of Adam

check what God said after Adam fell
ha! read between the lines. Rule here means we humans, have the right and priviledge to do whatever we want on animals for as long as it serves as purposes for beniftting us, humans. what do you understand by rule here? decide what clothes should cows wear?

and unless you provide example of what you said God said after Adam fell, then I'll assume that's non existing.
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ha! read between the lines. Rule here means we humans, have the right and priviledge to do whatever we want on animals for as long as it serves as purposes for beniftting us, humans. what do you understand by rule here? decide what clothes should cows wear?

and unless you provide example of what you said God said after Adam fell, then I'll assume that's non existing.
pointless arguing with you, isn't it?

this was the creation of the world, after that, Earth was a paradise

after Adam ate the apple, all his special privileges disappeared:-

Genesis 3 : 14 - 19

Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, You shall not eat of it
cursed is the ground because of you
in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life, thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you
and you shall eat the plants of the field
by the sweat of the your face you shall eat bread, until you return to the ground
by the sweat of your face, you are dust
and to the dust you shall return

funny it seems God wants us all to be vegetarians from the above scripture

(then again, I'm just playing your game of taking the scriptures out of context, since you are going to display such shallow knowledge of the Bible, so will I)
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pointless arguing with you, isn't it?

this was the creation of the world, after that, Earth was a paradise

after Adam ate the apple, all his special privileges disappeared:-

Genesis 3 : 14 - 19

Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, You shall not eat of it
cursed is the ground because of you
in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life, thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you
and you shall eat the plants of the field
by the sweat of the your face you shall eat bread, until you return to the ground
by the sweat of your face, you are dust
and to the dust you shall return

funny it seems God wants us all to be vegetarians from the above scripture

(then again, I'm just playing your game of taking the scriptures out of context, since you are going to display such shallow knowledge of the Bible, so will I)
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my own personal belief on this is that God really didn't mean it. He was just pissed off probably cause Adam disobeyed him.

and actually, if there's anything implied here, God seems like he doesn't want them to eat that 'apple' which is a non-meat food right? hmm..and you said Gods wants us to be vegetarians? go figure.
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my own personal belief on this is that God really didn't mean it. He was just pissed off probably cause Adam disobeyed him.

and actually, if there's anything implied here, God seems like he doesn't want them to eat that 'apple' which is a non-meat food right? hmm..and you said Gods wants us to be vegetarians? go figure.
back it up with Scripture please

if you dont have eny evidence of it, then bam!

find me a scripture of God saying:-

when I made the world, all the animals are for you to eat
then when you ate the Apple, because it's not an animal, therefore I am annoyed and am jesting with you to go eat vegetables
look! I'm only kidding - i made animals for you to eat, i reserved that much of paradise for you

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back it up with Scripture please

if you dont have eny evidence of it, then bam!

find me a scripture of God saying:-

when I made the world, all the animals are for you to eat
then when you ate the Apple, because it's not an animal, therefore I am annoyed and am jesting with you to go eat vegetables
look! I'm only kidding - i made animals for you to eat, i reserved that much of paradise for you

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