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Old 05-23-2011, 05:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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hi, would you eat an animal if they died from natural causes? -as opposed to being killed.
As a vegan I avoid eating animals and using animal products because I want to reduce or eliminate the harm and suffering experienced by animals due to human actions, so I would have no ethical objection to eating animals who died from natural causes as opposed to being killed.

My reason: eating animals who died from natural causes does not contribute to those animals experiencing suffering and does not encourage the killing of more animals.

However, I would have health reasons (which I describe below) for not eating even fresh animals who died from 'natural' causes. I would also have no desire or reason to eat them unless I were starving. If I see a dead animal I'm sorry for her that her life is over. Eating her is the last thing on my mind.

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The best source of protein is beans. One half cup of beans contains as much protein as a 3 oz steak. Beans are a cheap, easy solution to just about any meal.

Next is egg (which vegetarians can eat) and then Dairy (which vegetarians can also consume).
Earlier in the thread some folks stated that "meat is the best protein," and you mention that beans are a great source of protein (which is true), so I want to comment on the issue of "what is the best protein."

The Harvard School of Public Health provides a good assessment of protein sources by stating that vegetable sources of protein (beans, whole grains, and nuts) are excellent because vegetable sources of protein allow you to meet all your protein needs plus reduce health risks associated with eating animal products:

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The bottom line is that it's important to pay attention to what comes along with the protein in your food choices.

Vegetable sources of protein, such as beans, nuts, and whole grains, are excellent choices, and they offer healthy fiber, vitamins, and minerals. Nuts are also a great source of healthy fat.

The best animal protein choices are fish and poultry. If you are partial to red meat, such as beef, pork, or lamb, stick with the leanest cuts, choose moderate portion sizes, and make it only an occasional part of your diet, for several reasons: A major report on cancer prevention recommends consuming less than 18 ounces a week of red meat and avoiding processed meats (such as hot dogs, bacon, or ham) to lower the risk of colon cancer. (3)

There's also substantial evidence that replacing red meat with fish, poultry, beans, or nuts, could help prevent heart disease, and that lowering red meat can lower the risk of diabetes. (30, 31)

Processed meats, especially, have been most strongly linked with cardiovascular disease and diabetes, at least in part due to their high added sodium content. (Learn more about why cutting salt and sodium is good for your health, and learn what you can do to lower your risk of type 2 diabetes.)

Protein: Moving Closer to Center Stage - What Should You Eat? - The Nutrition Source - Harvard School of Public Health
As for eggs, they are a good protein source but have some drawbacks due to the cholesterol found especially in the yolks:

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Recent research has shown that moderate egg consumption—up to one a day—does not increase heart disease risk in healthy individuals.

In the Nurses' Health Study and Health Professionals Follow-up Study, heart disease risk was increased among men and women with diabetes who ate one or more eggs a day. For people who have diabetes and heart disease, it is best to limit egg consumption to no more than three yolks per week.

This research doesn't give the green light to daily three-egg omelets. While a 2008 report from the ongoing Physicians' Health Study supports the idea that eating an egg a day is generally safe for the heart, it also suggests that going much beyond that could increase the risk for heart failure later in life.

Eggs and Heart Disease - What Should You Eat? - The Nutrition Source - Harvard School of Public Health
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