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Originally Posted by Aurora (Post 1062605)

It's a pretty thing, having a baby just so they don't need to go on the ships for long periods. What the **** do they expect when they join the NAVY?

Lots of Sea men?...

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Originally Posted by Tumor (Post 1062366)

Um :(
I know I'm not stupid, lazy, or a slave to my sexual urges. Good advice though. You're a top notch guy Crash.

I don't know, I want to help people, its the only thing that makes me feel like my life is meaningful. If I did that for a living, I would be very happy. I could just get a profession thats decent and easy and volunteer on the side but I'm 17 years old! I figure I'm young enough to be at least a bit ambitious.
I'm a good student. Not a great student, a good student. I'm a decent athlete. Not a great athlete but a decent one. I will probably not get a scholarship. I'm not sure about loans but flipping burger for a few years to pay for college doesn't seem so bad. The idea of being a medic is a very new one to me but I thought it was a decent solution to my problem. Granted, I don't necessarily trust the government, nor do I approve of the war or want to shoot at people, but I have no moral opposition to giving sick people medical care. I thought I could be a nurse at first but somebody told me you had to have nurse training beforehand. Silly, since I don't want to be a nurse and would just be frittering away my life.
I don't expect it to be fun or exciting, really, although in the back of my mind I'm expecting parts of it to be absolutely terrifying. One of the qualities I like most about myself is my ability to work under pressure. When I need to, I can shut off my mind and do the things that need to be done. I figured this would be a good quality for someone in that sort of profession to have. Basically, the millitary>McDonalds because I would get to help people so I would feel like my life had meaning, and I would probably get the money faster.

I do need to do more research about this but I don't even get out of high school for a year. I have some time to figure out what I'm going to do with myself. Thanks again everybody.

(I don't mean to be condescending here...)
Don't feel bad. There aren't many 16/17 year olds that have a clue about not only what they want to do, but especially about what's best for them. Most people that age don't really know who they are yet, and will change a lot.
That's an important fact to consider when it comes down to making life-altering decisions, because you may regret a lot of things in the long run when your priorities change. I say, don't place so much pressure on yourself at the moment. It's not a race. Just finish school, take a break, then if you want to try college, do some basic courses that you'll need credits for (at your local community college, as it will be far cheaper than at university), give yourself time to think and change, and keep yourself mobile and flexible. Don't lock yourself down so early. Get a throwaway job for funds, and just give it a couple years before you start getting serious.

Give yourself a chance to figure yourself out, without doing any permanent damage to your life in the meantime.

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1062603)

Why bother enlisting then? I know there are other perks and stuff, but that just seems like such a cop out.

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Originally Posted by Aurora (Post 1062605)

It's a pretty thing, having a baby just so they don't need to go on the ships for long periods. What the **** do they expect when they join the NAVY?

Some people join for all the wrong reasons or right in their books and those benefits are pretty damn good.

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the "take a break advice" it's nice and all but that wasn't for me. One part of the reason why I joined the navy. I wanted to be doing something but not go to college right away. If I took a break and got a job, I highly doubt I would have been motivated enough to push myself to go to college afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1062615)

Lots of Sea men?...

I will throw you a bone.

:rofl:

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1062740)

the "take a break advice" it's nice and all but that wasn't for me. One part of the reason why I joined the navy. I wanted to be doing something but not go to college right away. If I took a break and got a job, I highly doubt I would have been motivated enough to push myself to go to college afterwards.

I'm not sure whether your opinion has much to offer on this subject. You joined the Navy and flunked out of it. Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm drawing from over a year of discussions and sources). Seems to me, you really had no other choice but to get your shit together.

What if Tumor is a stronger person than you are?

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1062796)

Actually no, I had other options. I wouldn't really say I flunked out of it to describe my situation.

My opinion is just that an opinion and not everyone is like me I understand that.

There are people that are able to take a break and when they are ready and know what they want to do with life they move on with said plans but I know damn well there are people that say they are taking a break before going to college and never ****ing go because they get into the rut of well. I got a job and now that money is coming in, they just want to continue along that route.

I think that's more a reflection of the person rather than the circumstance.

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1062377)

I think he was being really brutally honest with you there, but I don't think the statement about getting pregnant was necessary....

That wasn't a personal insult to Tumor, it's a probability. A significantly large percentage of females in the Navy end up pregnant within the first 18 months of service.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1062481)

he brings it up because that's what happens most of the time so he's talking from experience especially with navy girls.

This is sad, but true. Unfortunately, when you get a few young, semi-attractive girls, straight out of boot camp, with their self-esteem in the gutter and put them around a much larger number of desperate men, willing to do, say, or offer anything to get what they want... it just happens. You see a lot of Navy girls with guys who are WAY out of their league, just because it's the best thing around.

I dodged that bullet because this chick wanted me to get her pregnant for that similar reason and because I wouldn't go along with it, she almost got my ass sent to captain's mast for fraternizing.

That certainly happens more than it should.

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Originally Posted by Aurora (Post 1062577)

And why would someone want to intentionally get pregnant in the navy? I'm sure alot of us don't understand. Not having first hand experience and all. Spill please :D.

There are so many benefits to a woman getting pregnant in the military, another reason it happens so often. They get dependent pay, plus housing allowance (which allows them to get an apartment or house out in town on the governments dime and not have to live in a small, musty, overcrowded barracks on base). It ends up being an extra $2,000 a month overall, plus, living off base is a huge plus. Not to mention, if the father of the baby is in the Navy as well (usually are), they get half their pay for child support. So a single mom in the Navy is basically rolling like P Diddy at this point.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1062584)

so they can get stationed on a base and not have to go out on a ship to do a tour...usually when they find out there is a six month one coming up but sometimes they don't even want to do a three monther.

I'm not saying all women but there are some that have those intentions

Happens all the time, "hey **** going on deployment, I'm going to stay here, make some money, and not do ****".

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1062603)

Why bother enlisting then? I know there are other perks and stuff, but that just seems like such a cop out.

It is. But it's the system, and they won't ever call you out for fraud for doing it either, that's "sexist".

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Originally Posted by Aurora (Post 1062605)

It's a pretty thing, having a baby just so they don't need to go on the ships for long periods. What the **** do they expect when they join the NAVY?

They expect to be paid a royal sum for doing essentially nothing. Some people view the military as a cash cow, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1062796)

I'm just going on record (and off topic) and saying that this little personal grudge here is getting old. Just kiss and make up already.

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1062820)

There actually is no such thing as dependent pay in the military. You receive Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH), when living off base. If you have a non military spouse or child you will receive the w/ dependent rate which is usually a few hundred dollars more than the w/o dependent rate.

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1062820)

I'm just going on record (and off topic) and saying that this little personal grudge here is getting old. Just kiss and make up already.

I know it's really really old. He thinks it's fine to insult me and psycho analyze every chance he can get.

You are not my psychiatrist.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1062616)

(I don't mean to be condescending here...)

You weren't at all. Casually articulate as always.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1062740)

I relate to that a lot. I see so many people jump right out of high school into college into a full time job into starting a family and I feel like they miss out. It'd be nice to just plug away at something for a few years and come out with enough money to go to college and maybe be able do some stuff with art or join a band for a while but the military may not be for me. I don't seem myself settled into a job until my late 20s though. There's a lot that I want to do.

Also, I feel as though I need to be constantly stimulated. I hate the feeling of not accomplishing anything for long periods of time. I do need to fight my instincts if I'm about to commit to something that I can't handle though.

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1062820)

That wasn't a personal insult to Tumor, it's a probability. A significantly large percentage of females in the Navy end up pregnant within the first 18 months of service.

Whether you were calling me a whore or not (and you weren't although I wouldn't really care if you were), you were right. I haven't researched this enough, I don't know if I want to do it, and there might be a better solution out there for me. Good news is I have time.

I feel the need to mention that Kayleigh is the sweetest person in the fuckin' world.