Male Birth Control

Guybrush · 05-08-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

I still think that with this shot, it will open alot of people to not use condoms. Honestly, who uses a condom JUST too stop STD's. Truthfully, I only used them to not have a baby. Alot of people do not think about the STD part of the condom.

It's a bit sad to have to say no to advances in medicine to save the dumb people from hurting themselves by being stupid.

Anyways, money, accessibility, education .. All that could help. If it's more expensive, the dumb ****ers will probably go for condoms. If they can get free condoms at school and other places, that could also help and if you educate them on STDs and protection, maybe (just maybe) that would help too.

~~coryallen2~~ · 05-08-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

It's a bit sad to have to say no to advances in medicine to save the dumb people from hurting themselves by being stupid.

Anyways, money, accessibility, education .. All that could help. If it's more expensive, the dumb ****ers will probably go for condoms. If they can get free condoms at school and other places, that could also help and if you educate them on STDs and protection, maybe (just maybe) that would help too.

If people were to get this shot though. If I was the person who was marketing this product, I would highly advise my clients to both get tested for HIV, HPV and any other STD's. I would also say even though this product has been proven to cause temp. infertility in males, there is no "wonder" drug. It could fail, everyone reacts diffrently to a medicine. Therefore use a condom everytime.

Plus personaly, if there is a shot that causes infertality for a short time I would'nt use it because...

1.) I hate needles with a passion.

2.) What if it dose'nt work right and makes me permanently infertile?

It's kind of scary.

Guybrush · 05-08-2009, 06:29 AM

I don't think your personal worries about the drug is a worry we have to consider. New drugs are thoroughly tested.

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

2.) What if it dose'nt work right and makes me permanently infertile?

You set yourself up there .. *waits for inevitable joke*

~~coryallen2~~ · 05-08-2009, 06:32 AM

Toretorden, you know as well as I do that no drug is flawless. It could back fire. Not everyoen reacts to this drug the same.

And I did'nt get the shot if thats what your getting at.

Barnard17 · 05-08-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

I still think that with this shot, it will open alot of people to not use condoms. Honestly, who uses a condom JUST too stop STD's. Truthfully, I only used them to not have a baby. Alot of people do not think about the STD part of the condom.

Peoples stupidity isn't an argument against medical and scientific advancement, it's an argument against stupid people. I've had relationships with people on the pill but still used condoms because we weren't tested.

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

If people were to get this shot though. If I was the person who was marketing this product, I would highly advise my clients to both get tested for HIV, HPV and any other STD's. I would also say even though this product has been proven to cause temp. infertility in males, there is no "wonder" drug. It could fail, everyone reacts diffrently to a medicine.

Which is why any GP prescribing the pill to women advise regular STD and pregnancy tests. To make sure everything is ticking over properly.

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

2.) What if it dose'nt work right and makes me permanently infertile?.

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

Toretorden, you know as well as I do that no drug is flawless. It could back fire.

Cancer treatment can kill you, anti-depressants can cause suicide, painkillers can cause headaches/death ...

These things happen only in exceedingly rare cases and almost always when they're over prescribed or abused in some way. I've said it once and I'll say it again: this drug is not even out yet. It hasn't reached a stage where they can say "this works 99.9% of the time exactly as intended with no significant side effects". It won't be released until such a time as this is.

Your point about being **** scared of needles is personal to yourself and fair enough but not applicable to the majority of people who would think about using such a drug.
Your point about potential negative side effects are based on pure conjecture regarding a non-existent drug (by merit of the fact that regardless of whether or not such drugs are in development stages, none have been released to mass market) with no basis nor providence of sources to back up your assertions.
Your point about prevalence of STDs is negated by the fact that people using the pill or any other form of long term contraceptive which would include such a drug, should only be doing so without condoms if they're in a long term mutually exclusive relationship.

If you're having a one night stand or "casually" dating somebody you should be using a condom. If you're only have sex with one person, and they're only having sex with you, and you're both tested and neither have STDs then and ONLY then should you think about stopping using condoms and relying on drugs as contraceptives. You can use the pill, the hook or whatever else as back up with somebody you're in a casual relationship with in case the condom splits, but because of STDs you should not stop using the condom until you're only boinking one another. Any divergence from this is caused by poor sexual education or sheer stupidity.

~~coryallen2~~ · 05-08-2009, 11:18 AM

Obviously, but what you are'nt seeing is that I live in America. Where people lie about stuff like that.

crash_override · 05-08-2009, 01:00 PM

I've always thought this would be a great thing. If it were available I would definately get it. I shot in this **** is the worst thing I could possibly ever imagine.

WWWP · 05-08-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

Toretorden, you know as well as I do that no drug is flawless. It could back fire. Not everyoen reacts to this drug the same.

And I did'nt get the shot if thats what your getting at.

What he's getting at is that your infertality probably isn't a bad thing.

Barnard17 · 05-08-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

Obviously, but what you are'nt seeing is that I live in America. Where people lie about stuff like that.

Erm ... ok?

05-08-2009, 06:32 AM	#24 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	Toretorden, you know as well as I do that no drug is flawless. It could back fire. Not everyoen reacts to this drug the same. And I did'nt get the shot if thats what your getting at.

05-08-2009, 11:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	Obviously, but what you are'nt seeing is that I live in America. Where people lie about stuff like that.

05-08-2009, 01:00 PM	#27 (permalink)
crash_override Seemingly Silenced Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,312	I've always thought this would be a great thing. If it were available I would definately get it. I shot in this **** is the worst thing I could possibly ever imagine.