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Cuthbert 07-15-2015 09:01 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgnxQ8VvdC0

Thank fuck they don't drink.

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1614997)
Thank fuck they don't drink.

Disposable Income 101.

Cuthbert 07-15-2015 09:10 AM

There is a particularly bad one on Youtube where you see limbs chopped clean off and flying all over the place. I think five people died.

Probably a bit too graphic to post directly.

Search "Worst drifting crash in Saudi" though :eek:

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis (Post 1615009)
There is a particularly bad one on Youtube where you see limbs chopped clean off and flying all over the place. I think five people died.

I've seen it. The arm coming off is quite gruesome.

Key 07-15-2015 09:21 AM

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ac&oe=56110EEF

The Batlord 07-15-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1615023)

That's no planet. At least according to modern science.

Key 07-15-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1615048)
That's no planet. At least according to modern science.

Of course it isn't. It's the death star.

Frownland 07-15-2015 09:38 AM

Who are scientists to say whether or not Pluto is a planet or not? Regardless of how it falls into planetary roles, if Pluto self identifies as a planet, or a dwarf planet, or even a moon we should take its word for it. Planetaronormative assholes.

The Batlord 07-15-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615052)
Who are scientists to say whether or not Pluto is a planet or not? Regardless of how it falls into planetary roles, if Pluto self identifies as a planet, or a dwarf planet, or even a moon we should take its word for it. Planetaronormative assholes.

In all seriousness, I'm not sure why so many scientists make so many seemingly arbitrary decisions on what is and what is not a planet. If Titan, which is actually bigger than Mercury, is considered a moon, then I don't see why Pluto can't be a planet.

Frownland 07-15-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1615065)
In all seriousness, I'm not sure why so many scientists make so many seemingly arbitrary decisions on what is and what is not a planet. If Titan, which is actually bigger than Mercury, is considered a moon, then I don't see why Pluto can't be a planet.

It gives a clearer meaning when we're talking about planets or seeming planets in other solar systems that interest us.

Aux-In 07-15-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615052)
Who are scientists to say whether or not Pluto is a planet or not? Regardless of how it falls into planetary roles, if Pluto self identifies as a planet, or a dwarf planet, or even a moon we should take its word for it. Planetaronormative assholes.

In all nonseriousness, I'd have to agree. If Pluto is a transplanet, who are we to assign it to anything different?

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 11:12 AM

Damn, this place cracks me up. All hail Pluto!

The Batlord 07-15-2015 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aux-in (Post 1615107)
In all nonseriousness, I'd have to agree. If Pluto is a transplanet, who are we to assign it to anything different?

I'm not totally against classifying Pluto as a planetoid or whatever, but maybe I'm just too used to it being a planet. If nothing else, I'd at least like to educate the public on the new classifications and planets/planetoids discovered in the last couple decades. The nine planet myth is bull****.

Aux-In 07-15-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1615124)
I'm not totally against classifying Pluto as a planetoid or whatever, but maybe I'm just too used to it being a planet. If nothing else, I'd at least like to educate the public on the new classifications and planets/planetoids discovered in the last couple decades. The nine planet myth is bull****.

I remember reading an article about it when it was declassified as a planet. Don't remember the reason. First they demoted it to a dwarf planet, then to not a planet at all. Seems kind of rude if you ask me.

Why is Pluto no longer a planet? - BBC News

Key 07-15-2015 11:37 AM

Note to self: don't post a picture of the death star, discussion of Pluto will occur.

The Batlord 07-15-2015 12:02 PM

That is not correct. Pictures of the Death Star are always appropriate.


http://i.imgur.com/nhXAYnd.jpg

Ninetales 07-15-2015 12:07 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4ejHkUsAAEAnm.jpg

important

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1615065)
In all seriousness, I'm not sure why so many scientists make so many seemingly arbitrary decisions on what is and what is not a planet. If Titan, which is actually bigger than Mercury, is considered a moon, then I don't see why Pluto can't be a planet.

actually i think they stripped pluto of its planet rights to make the distinction a little less arbitrary, since they discovered a bunch of other "planets" beyond pluto that i guess they considered too insignificant to include with the original 8. and at some point they do have to make arbitrary distinctions. otherwise we might not even have words like planet. like someone could call every asteroid in the asteroid belt a planet. or they could say anyone over 300 pounds is a planet. without arbitrary distinctions in classification you simply have anarchy.

what i want to know is what makes scientists so arrogant as to think they can tell us **** like dark matter exists. we ask them where's your proof? and they just say "well... our calculations don't work unless we factor in this ambiguous **** called dark matter that we can't see or detect, but we know it's there cause otherwise all our models of reality are wrong"

it's like hey buddy i don't want to hear about your math problems. kind of sounds to me like you need to get your stuff together and then come back to me when you get it all figured out ok? until then i don't want to hear any more of this dark matter nonsense.

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 01:42 PM

learn to physics... i'm surprised it's not something you're into, it's fascinating. If I had the time and money I'd stay in college just to study it for fun.

Mondo Bungle 07-15-2015 01:45 PM

well Titan isn't a planet because planets don't orbit planets, moons do

grindy 07-15-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615258)
actually i think they stripped pluto of its planet rights to make the distinction a little less arbitrary, since they discovered a bunch of other "planets" beyond pluto that i guess they considered too insignificant to include with the original 8. and at some point they do have to make arbitrary distinctions. otherwise we might not even have words like planet. like someone could call every asteroid in the asteroid belt a planet. or they could say anyone over 300 pounds is a planet. without arbitrary distinctions in classification you simply have anarchy.

what i want to know is what makes scientists so arrogant as to think they can tell us **** like dark matter exists. we ask them where's your proof? and they just say "well... our calculations don't work unless we factor in this ambiguous **** called dark matter that we can't see or detect, but we know it's there cause otherwise all our models of reality are wrong"

it's like hey buddy i don't want to hear about your math problems. kind of sounds to me like you need to get your stuff together and then come back to me when you get it all figured out ok? until then i don't want to hear any more of this dark matter nonsense.

Yeah, you can't walk down the street without some bozo trying to chat you up about dark matter and stuff.
And those ****ing annoying first dates that weren't followed by a second one because the chick wouldn't stop yapping about dark matter. Ugh.

The Batlord 07-15-2015 02:20 PM

Less dark matter talk on dates. More Batman.

Oriphiel 07-15-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1615283)
Less dark matter talk on dates. More Batman.

Today, someone gave me a little vintage 1960s Batmobile toy, with a tiny Adam West in it. :laughing:

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615262)
learn to physics... i'm surprised it's not something you're into, it's fascinating. If I had the time and money I'd stay in college just to study it for fun.

i'm eager to learn vwls.. go ahead and school me. or stop pretending like you understand dark matter bitch

Frownland 07-15-2015 03:26 PM

Dark matter is evidence of God.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 03:30 PM

dont even get me started on dark energy

oh the big bang happened and now ****s expanding and nothing can go faster than the speed of light... except we're expanding faster than the speed of light... thus... da da daaaaa

dark energy!

get your **** together, science

Frownland 07-15-2015 03:31 PM

It's just a placeholder until we can actually prove that it's God.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 03:34 PM

all i know is if there's **** that makes you go faster than the speed of light then i want some of that dark energy juice over here, cause einstein said if you go the speed of light there won't be any more old people.. so imagine what going faster than the speed of light gets you

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 03:58 PM

sperm and eggs?

I don't understand dark matter but you can use beginner physics to understand why the idea of it is reasonable. Something is there happening that consistently skews mathematical calculations that would normally work.

Edited: for more sense.

The Batlord 07-15-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615312)
sperm and eggs?

The breakfast of champions.

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615312)
Edited: for more sense.

didn't work.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1615312)
sperm and eggs?

I don't understand dark matter but you can use beginner physics to understand why the idea of it is reasonable. Something is there happening that consistently skews mathematical calculations that would normally work.

Edited: for more sense.

i understand the basic idea... which i explained in my original post. but all i'm saying is that **** sounds sketchy to me. you're relying on the assumption that your initial mathematical models are correct. the whole point of science is that the models are supposed to be born out in reality/the patterns we observe. and then when they don't seem correct.... ****in dark matter? nah man i don't trust that dark matter ****.

Tweak Gravity: What If There Is No Dark Matter? - Scientific American

and don't even get me started on the holocaust

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 05:43 PM

Interesting article thanks dude. I think both sides are reasonable tbh. Space is full of unknowns so why can't there be some unique space condition that requires separate or new calculations? Those calculations were accurate to the best of our observable knowledge prior to this dark matter issue. I get what your saying and think its cool they are looking into alternative explanations. Have you looked at the virial theorem? Its very simple.

John Wilkes Booth 07-15-2015 06:06 PM

i dunno that much about physics but my understanding is the calculations in question mostly regard "weighing" solar systems and other parts of the universe. which, when we became technically proficient enough to do so, the results didn't conform with the observable mass we can currently detect. so i don't even really know what you mean by "the calculations were accurate until the dark matter issue."

i'll grant that the general mathematical models of the universe seemed to produce accurate results when observing other phenomena. but then again newton's model seemed more or less flawless before einstein. and ptolemy's model of the solar system also worked fine until copernicus.

funny thing is though i don't honestly really have a stance against dark matter/dark energy i was being sort of facetious. could be true, the **** do i know about physics? my overall point was that we basically take these scientists at their word just cause they're like way smarter than us. and by we i mean you. which makes me wonder why you people don't just blindly accept everything i say like you should do

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615334)
and ptolemy's model of the solar system also worked fine until copernicus.

Dude, you never cease to amaze me. In good ways and bad ways.

DwnWthVwls 07-15-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615334)
so i don't even really know what you mean by "the calculations were accurate until the dark matter issue."

i'll grant that the general mathematical models of the universe seemed to produce accurate results when observing other phenomena.

That's all that I meant.

grindy 07-16-2015 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615304)
dont even get me started on dark energy

oh the big bang happened and now ****s expanding and nothing can go faster than the speed of light... except we're expanding faster than the speed of light... thus... da da daaaaa

dark energy!

get your **** together, science

Nothing can move through space faster than light.
Space itself can do whatever the **** it wants to.

John Wilkes Booth 07-16-2015 12:42 AM

sounds like illuminati bull**** if you ask me.

DwnWthVwls 07-16-2015 07:28 AM

Star Trek already proved you wrong.

Plankton 07-16-2015 07:33 AM

What if you were traveling at the speed of light, and you shined a light in the direction you are heading?


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