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[ladyislingering]

Did DWV seriously just suggest that court systems not appealing to a male abuser's feelings in cases of extreme emotional abuse is a problem/privilege exclusive to female victims because I just

I can't fucking deal with that

that's some kind of bullshit

seriously any abuser of any gender needs to be put in the fucking ground

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by ladyislingering

Did DWV seriously just suggest that court systems not appealing to a male abuser's feelings in cases of extreme emotional abuse is a problem/privilege exclusive to female victims because I just

I can't fucking deal with that

that's some kind of bullshit

seriously any abuser of any gender needs to be put in the fucking ground

I believe that he's referring to instances where the allegations are false and the jury indicts the man even though there is no evidence because of how our society is set up.

[ladyislingering]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I believe that he's referring to instances where the allegations are false and the jury indicts the man even though there is no evidence because of how our society is set up.

see that's where it gets kind of tricky because it's beyond wrong to trivialize abuse but sometimes there's no solid evidence. sometimes.

nobody would have ever guessed that my ex threw me against walls sometimes, left bruises on me, screamed at me until I cried and curled up into a corner against the wall, but he did.

the repercussions of coming clean about it would have been endless but you know, situations differ and whatnot...

the people who lived upstairs from us knew very well what was happening and didn't say a word.

surely if I could hear one of the girls sneezing upstairs, she could hear my ex shouting at me and throwing things at me.

but no.

nobody ever says anything.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by ladyislingering

Did DWV seriously just suggest that court systems not appealing to a male abuser's feelings in cases of extreme emotional abuse is a problem/privilege exclusive to female victims because I just

I can't fucking deal with that

that's some kind of bullshit

seriously any abuser of any gender needs to be put in the fucking ground

Of course that's what he meant. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to go into a self-righteous Feminazi rage.

[Oriphiel]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I believe that he's referring to instances where the allegations are false and the jury indicts the man even though there is no evidence because of how our society is set up.

Yeah, that was DWV's point, but taken out of context our conversation is pretty funny. We got off to a bad start.

Anyway, people keep saying that there are men who get convicted of abuse despite there being no evidence, but I wonder how often it actually happens. It'd be interesting for someone to look through case files and find some actual examples. Because if you compare the numbers, and it's just a dozen or so men getting the hammer for every thousand or so women who have to suffer domestic abuse, then it hardly seems like a win for the ladies to get the benefit of the doubt every once in awhile.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by ladyislingering

see that's where it gets kind of tricky because it's beyond wrong to trivialize abuse but sometimes there's no solid evidence. sometimes.

nobody would have ever guessed that my ex threw me against walls sometimes, left bruises on me, screamed at me until I cried and curled up into a corner against the wall, but he did.

the repercussions of coming clean about it would have been endless but you know, situations differ and whatnot...

the people who lived upstairs from us knew very well what was happening and didn't say a word.

surely if I could hear one of the girls sneezing upstairs, she could hear my ex shouting at me and throwing things at me.

but no.

nobody ever says anything.

We refer to the bolded as evidence. Tell the cops about your paper thin walls and who lives around you, they do some interviews: testimonial evidence.

[ladyislingering]

Originally Posted by Frownland

We refer to the bolded as evidence. Tell the cops about your paper thin walls and who lives around you, they do some interviews: testimonial evidence.

it's been years and since I'd been removed from the situation with such security, and the steps I had to take just to cover my tracks... it wasn't worth speaking out against him over the whole ordeal...

I have a lot of internalized rage toward men because of that shithead, though.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Yeah, that was DWV's point, but taken out of context our conversation is pretty funny. We got off to a bad start.

Anyway, people keep saying that there are men who get convicted of abuse despite there being no evidence, but I wonder how often it actually happens. It'd be interesting for someone to look through case files and find some actual examples. Because if you compare the numbers, and it's just a dozen or so men getting the hammer for every thousand or so women who have to suffer domestic abuse, then it hardly seems like a win for the ladies to get the benefit of the doubt every once in awhile.

I guess if you took it that way. You just don't appreciate/get my humor(my previous comment was a joke minus the bad avatar portion) and we don't see eye to eye on many things.

I haven't had a bad start with anyone on here, from my perspective.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by ladyislingering

I have a lot of internalized rage toward men because of that shithead, though.

We haven't noticed.

[ladyislingering]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

We haven't noticed.

at least I own up to it.