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Old 06-03-2020, 08:06 AM   #24861 (permalink)
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Anteater straight up trying to justify the Boston Massacre over here.

Idk why anyone bothers getting through to Ant. It's over y'all, the body snatchers got him.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:11 AM   #24862 (permalink)
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A few things to consider. There are journalists who were there that attested that police officers were being pelted with objects, bottles, whatever before they did anything. And then you have other authorities there who say it wasn't tear gas. Then you have all of these media outlets who say it was tear gas, but can't provide evidence of it. What kind of moron gets mad for looking at the details of a story after-the-fact? Trump went out there to take a picture and even with all the video that was shot that gives us some insight into the events, nobody seems to have a clear chronology of exactly what happened and in what order.

As far as the ethics of it go, I guess it just comes down to whether or not you think officers are allowed to respond with any kind of force if they get pelted, assaulted, etc. You'd tell me that it's okay if someone kills a police officer if they were afraid because the police officer is in the wrong: they're a threat, right? But what about non-lethal force? If you attack a police officer for whatever reason, should they use a pepper ball to defend themselves?
The "other authorities" are the police. That is not a reliable source when they are the ones under scrutiny. There are no other sources cited in that article. None. How dumb do you have to be?
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:11 AM   #24863 (permalink)
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Anteater straight up trying to justify the Boston Massacre over here.

Idk why anyone bothers getting through to someone. It's over y'all, the body snatchers got him.
You don't have an argument or an actual endgame of any kind that's gonna work for people when all the dust settles. Telling me "we'll figure it out as we go along" isn't compelling.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:14 AM   #24864 (permalink)
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You don't have an argument or an actual endgame of any kind that's gonna work for people when all the dust settles. Telling me "we'll figure it out as we go along" isn't compelling.
Good point, that definitely makes violent responses to protests justified.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:41 AM   #24865 (permalink)
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Good point, that definitely makes violent responses to protests justified.
Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.

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Old 06-03-2020, 08:45 AM   #24866 (permalink)
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Good way to get the crowd to turn on you for being an instigator or potential narc.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:14 AM   #24867 (permalink)
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Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.

Can't find this Tweet on his page so I guess he took it down. In another Tweet he cites the same source as your article, which claims that the items thrown at the police were friggin water bottles. Set your nightsticks on "whomp", boys.

https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1267830629548175363
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:29 AM   #24868 (permalink)
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I didn't see you complaining about the Hitler / Trump pic rostasi shared a few pages ago. Now there's a profound observation that nobody has ever made before.
Interesting to see how a Photoshopped simile has been raised to the level of a Homeric simile in your mind ... well, maybe it isn't interesting actually...

As for your Tim Carney tweet ref: Is that the same Tim Carney who, even as a columnist for the right-leaning Examiner wrote this opinion piece in today's paper where he explicitly states that the protesters were peaceful until the Secret Service goons moved in?

"The protest was peaceful. Some protesters angrily yelled across the fence barricade at the members of the Secret Service, who were arrayed in riot gear with armor, masks, billy clubs, and plastic shields. But mostly, the protesters were chanting and waving signs.

Then shortly after 6:15, the lines of Secret Service began marching forward, pushing the crowds back. Because the officers were often standing face-to-face with protesters, and because the advances by the officers went as far as 20 yards at a time, this inevitably involved police shoving otherwise peaceful protesters (sometimes before, sometimes after, a verbal demand to move).

This shoving sparked some retaliation. A group of young men who had clearly come to scuffle started hurling plastic water bottles and eggs at Secret Service near Vermont Avenue. The officers didn’t react to these projectiles, but they kept pushing forward..."


Then it's followed by a video that shows an ABC reporter being forced by police.
... then another video where cops fired teargas into the crowd ...

Another pull from the same opinion piece from Carney:

"Ordering force against peaceful protesters always has downsides. It physically endangers the protesters who are shoved or tear-gassed. It physically endangers the police who are thrust into altercations. It also has a moral cost. At the root of the tension behind the protests is a frayed relationship between law enforcement and the public. The attacks on peaceful protesters and journalists Monday night will make that worse..."

{sorry, it was yesterday's paper that the article was in - not today's}

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Next time I'm out in the streets during a peaceful protest I'm just gonna start throwing **** at police preemptively and see what happens.
You'll get your ass beat for being a dumbass is what'll happen and you'll deserve it
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:35 AM   #24870 (permalink)
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Yeah if you're gonna take on the police make sure you're holding something that spills their skittles.
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