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That's why it is quoted throughout our history and has been apart of Earth since written records showed up? I have a hard time believing it, but it would make a great story.

****ty i thought people would beak me about this thread. Ionly believe in Mother Nature.

or maybe he was just stating the fact that neither of them are real. Sure you could say they are, but it depends on your beliefs. blah blah.

:beer: oh wait we have to add jesus
:beer: whos the 4th guy? oh yea Oi To the world gotta love that guy

The way I see it, if heaven and hell truly exist, the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that after death, every single person will go to hell, and here's why. Heaven only accepts believers of a certain faith. Of the people living on earth, some of them don't believe in any religion, therefore condeming them to hell. Now comes the tricky part, according to your statement, non-christians will be going to hell, but, there are also a number of other religions that say non-believers of THIER religion will go to hell. So, even if you do believe in one faith, there will be another faith that you don't believe in, automatically damning you to hell for all eternity. So, unless anyone here is a believer of every single religion known to man, I'll see you all in hell! :)

This scenario is of course utterly rediculous, which is why I find it baffling that anyone can actually take the idea of eternal pain and suffering of anyone not sharing their specific religious views serious.

^ nah, i see it this way:
if you are a believer of one faith, that's enough, it's not possible to believe in every religion, God wouldn't ask us to do so, plus you should believe only because you agree with what that religion says, not because that's the way to go to Heaven.

meh, I just think it's incredibly closedminded to actually believe that anyone who doesn't believe in religion will be subject to eternal pain and suffering after death. I can easily understand people being religious or believing in god, but the whole heaven and hell aspect of it just seems completely ludicrous to me.

he tried that. he was once st lucifer but he led the rebellion against heaven. for a thousand years the war was waged, but he and his followers were defeated and cast into hell.

And again the Bible blow's all the book's away with it's stories. Everyone should read it it's quite interesting.