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Old 01-16-2005, 09:16 AM   #41 (permalink)
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The why would I believe in something that isn't fact? Because once its fact, you no longer have belief but rather blind obediance. You believe cause you have to, not cause you want to. I believe because of personal experiances and because I want to. I trust in something. Don't criticize my trust. I'm merely telling you about my faith. Sorry if your offened. I'll stop if you guys want me too, but I'd think you'd want a differing opinion.
The thing I feel all religions have in common is faith. I never intended to criticize your faith, and by having it, you are not offending anyone. But to claim your beliefs as fact IS faith, just like how I feel my beliefs are fact. Everyone has their own idea of a "god" or higher being, whether they exist or not, it's a matter of perception. There is no fact to prove it's existance.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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yo, where do satan worhippers go when they die? wif dem bein like that theyd probly think hell was right bangin. hella confusin son.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:48 AM   #43 (permalink)
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never fort of it like that, mybe there 'hell' is heaven?
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:58 AM   #44 (permalink)
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maybe there's two kinds of heavens. one for idiots, and another for even bigger idiots.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:06 AM   #45 (permalink)
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ill be in the 'even bigger idiots'. that'll be me
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Old 01-17-2005, 09:22 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Dude hell heaven dont exist you die and lifes over thats it.
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yo, where do satan worhippers go when they die? wif dem bein like that theyd probly think hell was right bangin. hella confusin son.
Man i need a translator^^^.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:34 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Man i need a translator^^^.
Where do satan worhippers go when they die? what if them being like that(refreing to bad people sining or whatever) theyd probly think hell was awesome. confusing man.

Not that hard dude.
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:14 AM   #49 (permalink)
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i do not believe in religion perse`. if you were to ask me, god is dead. in the old testaments he appeared frequently. but as time progressed he is described as older and older and weaker physically, if thats possible for a god. then he stops altogether. his son is sent, and inevitably killed. religion for me is a rich story. and though it has it worths which i am not blind enough to miss, it is not agreeable to me.
i do not however believe that it is over with death. sure when at ym sceptical peak i can, but not when i think about it. every single civilisation prior to ours was based on some form of afterlife. and these civilisations in many ways were a lot more advanced. the ancient greeks and their political structures. the ancient mayans and their unbelievable calculations that could predict where a star would sit in the sky in hundreds of years. calculations that today would use over 5 fields of maths and science.
also throughout history there are many odd occurances. the same "gods" descirbed in the same ways by different peoples of different times and lands. staying with the mayan theme, Itzamna, a giant bird-like lizard standing 7ft tall opposed to blood sacrifices who "came from the stars" is depicted exactly the same way in a number of other civilisations. for example the aztecs.
there is a lot of unexplained happenings throughout history. different people fill them in various ways. religions often supply meaning and reason to such times.
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I took a philosophy class a few years ago and they taught us something very interesting: Basically, it isn't a bad idea to believe in "god", because if you are indeed rewarded for having faith, then might as well have it, because there is nothing you can lose from having faith. In other words, even if it turns out to be bull, you wouldn't have lost anything (maybe time and effort). I didn't necessarily agree with my professor, but I thought it was a very logical idea.
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