hey you texans

lucifer_sam · 11-08-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

That somes up how I felt about Savanah's post. My boyfriend is Arabic and it really bothers me when people assume any criminal that's Arab/Muslium must be a terrorist. Or even being Arab in general. American's can be so damn ignorant, but I think we have Bush to thank for that.

just to clarify things...

Muslim =/= Arab

Islam is the religion, Arabic is the ethnicity. and it's silly (and fairly ignorant) to use them interchangeably when there are many many more Muslims who don't identify themselves as Arabic (and quite a few Arabians who aren't Muslim).

savannah · 11-08-2009, 05:20 PM

i've sat on this a few days, and thought very hard about the points brought up in reply to my posts,...i'm going to say this and then i'll let it go and not speak of the matter anymore

if you read correctly, i never said that all muslims were terrorists, or that they should be mistreated in anyway

what i did say was i do not believe the ideology of islam matches up with that i personally want in the american military

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-08-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

i've sat on this a few days, and thought very hard about the points brought up in reply to my posts,...i'm going to say this and then i'll let it go and not speak of the matter anymore

if you read correctly, i never said that all Muslims were terrorists, or that they should be mistreated in anyway

what i did say was i do not believe the ideology of Islam matches up with that i personally want in the American military

If they can fight why should it matter at all? There idea is to go out and destroy the enemy. If they do that then they should be in the army. If they don't then they should not.

I think the problem with America is that our government supports moral relativism. Our government should be speaking out against any belief that is wrong and dangerous no matter whose feelings get hurt. The radical Islam is just one example. We still need an atheist for a president who will be willing to criticize religion. Legislation discriminating it would be wrong, but the president who represents America should represent a beacon of reason.

savannah · 11-08-2009, 05:36 PM

political correctness may be the downfall of humanity

Inuzuka Skysword · 11-08-2009, 05:40 PM

Political correctness is the shallow issue. It is relativism and skepticism that plague humanity. Everyone wants to throw out the best system we have in favor of arbitrary feelings.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-08-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

just to clarify things...

Muslim =/= Arab

Islam is the religion, Arabic is the ethnicity. and it's silly (and fairly ignorant) to use them interchangeably when there are many many more Muslims who don't identify themselves as Arabic (and quite a few Arabians who aren't Muslim).

I realise that. I know that there are Arab Christians and all sorts of other religions. I am suggesting the assumption others seem to make.

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Originally Posted by savannah

what i did say was i do not believe the ideology of islam matches up with that i personally want in the american military

Why does islam in your opinion not "suit" the "american military"? It's like saying Jew's should be in the current German military.

anticipation · 11-08-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

what i did say was i do not believe the ideology of islam matches up with that i personally want in the american military

why not? it's about a thousand times more restrictive than most other religions, and islamic military jurisprudence explicitly forbades unnecessary violence towards others and the fair treatment of opposing soldiers while under occupation. do you have any specifics or are you just going to wax libelously about a religion you know next to nothing about?

NumberNineDream · 11-08-2009, 07:38 PM

That's why it's so difficult for me to get a visiting VISA to the USA. *kissing my chance to visit Mulholland Drive goodbye*

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-08-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

That's why it's so difficult for me to get a visiting VISA to the USA. *kissing my chance to visit Mulholland Drive goodbye*

My friends boyfriend who's Saudi Arabian, had to apply for a Visa to STOP OVER in Australia for 2 hours on his way back to Saudi Arabia. Is that not extremely ignorant? He's been living in New Zealand for 3 years for goodness sake.

Freebase Dali · 11-08-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

what i did say was i do not believe the ideology of islam matches up with that i personally want in the american military

What exactly in Islamic ideology conflicts with serving in the US Military?
I personally know and have served with several soldiers who converted to Islam. One of them was my platoon sergeant, and a damn good one. The other two were great guys and achieved above and beyond military standards.

I agree that an extremist ideology is not compatible with our military service, but I'm not about to call Islam, as a whole, extremist. Because it's not.

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Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	Political correctness is the shallow issue. It is relativism and skepticism that plague humanity. Everyone wants to throw out the best system we have in favor of arbitrary feelings.