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Astronomer 07-15-2010 03:56 AM

But you did have a sweet shirt.

boo boo 07-15-2010 03:57 AM

F*ck yeah!

Guybrush 07-15-2010 04:00 AM

I see a lot of girls seem to prefer the company of guys and I'll admit that although I usually have a lot more fun with guys, I'm usually more relaxed in the company of girls. It sort of depends on the people, but if we say they are people I don't yet actually know, then that's almost a certainty.

I think that's the way it's supposed to be. We don't subconciously compete with members of the opposite sex.

Astronomer 07-15-2010 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 900184)
I see a lot of girls seem to prefer the company of guys and I'll admit that although I usually have a lot more fun with guys, I'm usually more relaxed in the company of girls. It sort of depends on the people, but if we say they are people I don't yet actually know, then that's almost a certainty.

I think that's the way it's supposed to be. We don't subconciously compete with members of the opposite sex.

Yeah, I agree. With other girls I immediately feel as though they are 'competition' even if that thought is completely out of context. It's odd. Plus, girls can be really catty and bitchy. There are very few girls I get along with well! And like you said tore, if I'm out somewhere I don't know a lot of people, I will mainly pal up and make friends with guys. Maybe because we're just supposed to be attracted to the opposite sex.

But even outside of those kind of situations, all of my good friends are also guys. If I needed to talk to someone about something important or personal the first three friends I would probably run to are all guys.

boo boo 07-15-2010 04:08 AM

I dunno maybe it's because the girls are just sick of being amongst their kind too much? That isn't the reason I prefer girls because girls have always played a bigger role in my life than males.

And yeah Tore has a good point, it's natural for people to feel more competitive with people of their own gender and thus relating to the opposite sex is less competitive and also it teaches you how to better relate with the opposite sex in romantic relationships. And also our sexual attraction plays a role making us more interested in the opposite sex and wanting to learn everything we can about them and so having more friends with the opposite sex than our own has it's many share of benefits.

Still something doesn't set right with me, the fact that so many males have answered the question with yes and so many girls have answered no or not sure and it tells me that the girls here generally feel more uncomfortable with their gender or lifestyle or both, much more than the males feel about theirs.

And so that's one reason I like to keep assuring the girls that boys are not as great and glamourous as we're made out to be and have our own faults as well. As long as society keeps perpetuating the idea that it's objectively better to be a man the more often girls will unfortunately feel that way.

Guybrush 07-15-2010 04:16 AM

One thing I really like about being a guy is that we seem to take things less seriously. I know a lot of guys as well as girls and generally, right down to everyday social dynamics or what have you, guys tend to joke about stuff more often and just seem to have more fun than girls. There are exceptions of course, but that's my general impression.

It seems to me guys more often use humour as a way to take the edge off serious situations and so on and more often as a way to grease the various cogs in social relationships and that's cool with me. We're generally a bit more easy going I guess.

boo boo 07-15-2010 04:40 AM

Every girl here has a pretty great sense of humor as do a lot of girls I know.

Anyway it's super pretentious babble time, I'm a believer in statistics myself and those always make it clear that there's a wide range of advantages that each sex has over each other, enough that they are equal despite all their differences.

99% of the opinions expressed in this thread including my own are influenced by our intuition and perception of our environment, rather than knowing all the statistics and facts required to provide a truly sound and objective grasp of things. Sure we can look up statistics and scientific articles that are most consistant with our point of view but that's really just confirmation bias.

And so we just go around in circles. Tore can say that guys are less pint up and have more fun because that's how he experiences things and I can say that the exact opposite is true because of how I experience things. I mean all these things, "fun", "comfort", "easy", they all mean different things to each of us because we have different ideas of what is fun and comfortable and we have our own conceptions of intelligence, as in different people learn and percieve things in different ways and so what is easy for some is difficult for others.

A less pretentious way of putting it is, it's all subjective and sh*t and there's no winner or loser in the great gender clash, just go with the facts and accept what you have, when life gives you lemons make lemonade instead of wishing you had oranges instead. Even if oranges would have been nice.

But the primary reason any heterosexual should be proud of their gender is that they have the best equipment for sexually satisfying the opposite sex. Even though I think about what it would be like to be a chick, I'm happy to be a male because I love chicks so much that they are who I am interested in sexually and I have the best equipment for the job, if I was a chick it would be more difficult and I would have less sexual options, and the same applies for heterosexual girls because they have the best equipment for satisfying males. That's not to say same sex couples don't have awesome sex I'm sure they do but I dunno, I can't grasp my mind around the concept since it's the males job to penetrate and the female's to be penetrated and so when you pair two of the same roles with each other you have to be more creative and don't get as many options.

It's simple Freud stuff, if each sex secretly has a desire to be each other that's why they compliment each other so perfectly since sex kinda symbolizes union of sorts, if we were the gender that we sexually desired we wouldn't be able to make that kind of union as biology intended.

I hope Adidasss doesn't get too offended by that, it's not a knock on homosexuals just some of my opinions on what it means to be hetero. I even admit that when I was younger and my sexual feelings were very new I did experiment with the concept of homosexuality (because I was very depressed at that stage in life and taking my fustrations over my lack of a romantic life out on girls) but in the end it didn't click with me, it felt like I was forcing myself to be gay just so I could be a rebel, back then I tried to fit in with other guys but once I realised that wasn't what I really wanted, dudes have become increasingly less attractive to me.

Once I got to socialize with people better especially women, my gender confusion was resolved and I've accepted that being attracted to women is not something I should try to unlearn just because I have no success with women and I've come to realise that the real reason I never had a girlfriend is because I'm too introverted and don't approach people, I just selfishly expect them to make the first move and this is something I'm still trying to improve on but since I've come to realise these things, my opinions of women have grown more positive.

mr dave 07-15-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 900142)
I am not gay. But I admit I'm kinda surprised that I'm not, because my mom used to do sh*t like this to me as a baby for a cruel laugh.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...8_760973_n.jpg

And yes, that really is me. :o:

dude! i'm drinking for the orange version of that exact cup RIGHT NOW (the green one is in the dishwasher) :beer:

adidasss 07-15-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 900198)
But the primary reason any heterosexual should be proud of their gender is that they have the best equipment for sexually satisfying the opposite sex. Even though I think about what it would be like to be a chick, I'm happy to be a male because I love chicks so much that they are who I am interested in sexually and I have the best equipment for the job, if I was a chick it would be more difficult and I would have less sexual options, and the same applies for heterosexual girls because they have the best equipment for satisfying males. That's not to say same sex couples don't have awesome sex I'm sure they do but I dunno, I can't grasp my mind around the concept since it's the males job to penetrate and the female's to be penetrated and so when you pair two of the same roles with each other you have to be more creative and don't get as many options.

It's simple Freud stuff, if each sex secretly has a desire to be each other that's why they compliment each other so perfectly since sex kinda symbolizes union of sorts, if we were the gender that we sexually desired we wouldn't be able to make that kind of union as biology intended.

I hope Adidasss doesn't get too offended by that, it's not a knock on homosexuals just some of my opinions on what it means to be hetero.

Yeah that does sound dangerously close to a standard Christian argument (replace biology with God etc). Anyhow, my standard answer to that is that anal sex is actually (despite popular hetero male opinion) pleasurable so I'm guessing "biology" did actually intend it to be a valid sexual option (we're not sadists, you know. I remember a letter from a guy to Playboy wherein he states that his girlfriend put a finger up his ass just as he was about to come and he came harder than ever, and omg, does this mean he's gay?? Heaven forbid anyone should come near that holiest of male regions...:rolleyes: ).

And as for "not as many options" I'd say the opposite is actually true, because same-sex couples can actually switch dominant roles while with hetero sex one party is always the "receiver" if you will. :\

P.s Slightly related...getting just a little tired at the slight digs at homos on this forum lately...(not by you boobs ;))

boo boo 07-15-2010 10:15 PM

I don't know what's wrong with that statement, I'm just saying that homosexual intercourse isn't what we were biologically programmed to do, not saying that makes it immoral or deviant behavior. We were not programmed to shave our hair either lol.

And I mostly meant optional in terms of sex positions rather than dominant/submissive roles, like vaginal intercourse and variations of it, I can assume it's just easier for opposite sex couples to sexually pleasure each other at the same time (especially if neither is an anal fan) since their sexual organs were made to cooperate with each other, and in regards to what you say about switching roles that can work with heterosexuals too, women can play the dominate role over the man as well, they'll just need a dildo and they're ready to go. Yeah I know it's not the same. :laughing:


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