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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
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last.fm | my collection on RYM | vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures. |
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FakingSuicideForApplause
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: I live in a van down by the river
Posts: 1,365
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That's a weird argument..
Are you trying to say that.. life isn't fair? Lol, but alas it isn't.
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See you are viewing it as such a BAD thing. Like you are angry that women are expected to do it, but men aren't. I don't think it's about inequality or not being equal, its just about BEING DIFFERENT. Men and women are very different from each other! It doesn't always have to come down to right VS wrong ya know// it's just....different
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: A State of Denial
Posts: 357
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It's somewhat of an oversimplification to say it this way, but books have been written about this subject and I'm trying to be succinct, so bear with me. With that caveat, the idea that not shaving is "disgusting" is part of a larger institution that creates the idea that a woman's value is based on how much she appeals to men. That is a fundamental inequality and it's played out in an often-subtle pressure that you're not going to understand, no matter what I type--that's the nature of privilege, and men ARE a privileged class, especially when it comes to physical appearance. And like it or not, however enlightened we like to claim we are, we are also products of that larger culture, which is why it's NOT equivalent to a guy having or not having a beard, especially on a level beyond individuals. To be fair, even I'm not above this cultural idea--I shave my armpits and trim everything else and I do so mostly for aesthetic reasons (it does feel better, but I think that's only because I'm used to it). Likewise, I don't consider this the fault of any particular male--you're used to what you're used to, you find attractive what you find attractive. That's neither here nor there. But I am troubled by how dismissively people participate in the double standard without being willing to challenge themselves. You said you wouldn't date or have sex with a girl who had body hair--what if the girl of your dreams in every other way has decided not to shave for a while when you meet her? I know that's sort of an overly glib thing to say, but I'm trying to make a point--when you start saying things like "Any girl I'd want would have to ________" unequivocally, that's a foundation for sexism, because you're not the only guy doing that and there's a power imbalance still in play. I'm sitting here typing this out and thinking "Wait, wait. C'mon, I shave. And my first inclination with another girl is to prefer it. Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive." Yet what causes me to think that? Why am I in a position where I might even feel the need to be sensitive? Just something to think about.
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Like carnivores to carnal pleasures, so were we to desperate measures... Last edited by Nine Black Poppies; 10-19-2010 at 10:54 PM. |
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