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Old 10-19-2010, 05:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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That's a social construct. It shouldn't be.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's a social construct.
There are a lot of things that shouldn't be, yet are.
Arm pit hair on a female, generally speaking is considered unattractive, rightly, or wrongly.
Nothing wrong with having a big nose, or being ginger, but there you go.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nothing wrong with having a big nose, or being ginger, but there you go.
What have you got against Ron Weasley?
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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there are a lot of things that shouldn't be, yet are.
Arm pit hair on a female, generally speaking is considered unattractive, rightly, or wrongly.
Nothing wrong with having a big nose, or being ginger, but there you go.
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They could be unicycles.
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I have no clue. I think it's some character from another language.

and it's particularly useful, too.
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That's a social construct. It shouldn't be.
That's a weird argument..

Are you trying to say that.. life isn't fair?

Lol, but alas it isn't.
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Old 10-19-2010, 08:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That's a social construct. It shouldn't be.
See you are viewing it as such a BAD thing. Like you are angry that women are expected to do it, but men aren't. I don't think it's about inequality or not being equal, its just about BEING DIFFERENT. Men and women are very different from each other! It doesn't always have to come down to right VS wrong ya know// it's just....different
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See you are viewing it as such a BAD thing. Like you are angry that women are expected to do it, but men aren't. I don't think it's about inequality or not being equal, its just about BEING DIFFERENT. Men and women are very different from each other! It doesn't always have to come down to right VS wrong ya know// it's just....different
See, the thing about humanity is that difference--even though it's inevitable--creates and supports inequality.

It's somewhat of an oversimplification to say it this way, but books have been written about this subject and I'm trying to be succinct, so bear with me. With that caveat, the idea that not shaving is "disgusting" is part of a larger institution that creates the idea that a woman's value is based on how much she appeals to men. That is a fundamental inequality and it's played out in an often-subtle pressure that you're not going to understand, no matter what I type--that's the nature of privilege, and men ARE a privileged class, especially when it comes to physical appearance. And like it or not, however enlightened we like to claim we are, we are also products of that larger culture, which is why it's NOT equivalent to a guy having or not having a beard, especially on a level beyond individuals.

To be fair, even I'm not above this cultural idea--I shave my armpits and trim everything else and I do so mostly for aesthetic reasons (it does feel better, but I think that's only because I'm used to it). Likewise, I don't consider this the fault of any particular male--you're used to what you're used to, you find attractive what you find attractive. That's neither here nor there.

But I am troubled by how dismissively people participate in the double standard without being willing to challenge themselves. You said you wouldn't date or have sex with a girl who had body hair--what if the girl of your dreams in every other way has decided not to shave for a while when you meet her? I know that's sort of an overly glib thing to say, but I'm trying to make a point--when you start saying things like "Any girl I'd want would have to ________" unequivocally, that's a foundation for sexism, because you're not the only guy doing that and there's a power imbalance still in play.

I'm sitting here typing this out and thinking "Wait, wait. C'mon, I shave. And my first inclination with another girl is to prefer it. Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive." Yet what causes me to think that? Why am I in a position where I might even feel the need to be sensitive? Just something to think about.
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