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Cuthbert 05-15-2018 08:25 AM

His vehicle was found on fire and his body burned inside.

Frownland 05-15-2018 09:34 AM

Tom Wolfe, Innovative Nonfiction Writer and Novelist, Dies

OccultHawk 05-15-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1951070)

The Painted Word, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, and The Right Stuff are three unassailable books. I’m surprised I haven’t read more of his stuff considering how good all three of those are.

This one plus Branca equals two Important artists in two days.

Black Francis 05-15-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1950894)
Guitarist & Composer Glenn Branca Dies at 69

:(

There will never be another.

I didn't know who this guy was but i just heard his music and it's amazing.

Frownland 05-15-2018 07:35 PM

Looks like you're well on your way to knowing who he is. You should get acquainted with the no wave scene. Great chaotic experimental punk.

Black Francis 05-15-2018 07:45 PM

I'm starting here


The Batlord 05-15-2018 11:32 PM

You already know the Contortions, right? No wave.

Lisnaholic 05-16-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1951070)

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1951081)
The Painted Word, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, and The Right Stuff are three unassailable books. I’m surprised I haven’t read more of his stuff considering how good all three of those are.

^ I've just learned about this sad news: Tom Wolfe was a fabulous writer and journalist, with the NYT describing his style as "shotgun baroque" - a phrase worthy of Wolfe himself, who used words in a way that no-one had before. And under the glittering style, he had a bunch of well-researched stories to tell too, so if you've never read anything by TW, I recommend you change that asap.

OccultHawk mentions three of his best books:-
"The Painted Word" is a good place to start if you have any interest in modern art: it's short and does a great job of ripping away the pretensiousness that goes along with so many art movements today.
"The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" will give you a long, detailed, insider's view of The Merry Pranksters and how LSD use spread out from California to change a generation.
"The Right Stuff" does something similar for the history of manned space flight.

If any of those topics sound dull to you, they are definitely not in Tom Wolfe's hands. Those three books are classic examples of "New Journalism" - a phrase that TW invented when he compiled a collection of articles by George Plimpton, Hunter S Thompson and others.

His novels are rather flawed, imo, but "The Bonfire of Vanities" is a pretty good read.

Big time RIP moment in the Lisna house. :(

Lisnaholic 05-18-2018 11:17 AM



And if you want a taste of his writing, here is the opening paragraph of The Painted Word:-

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People don't read the morning paper, Marshall McLuhan once said, they slip into it like a warm bath. Too true, Marshall! Imagine being in New York City on the morning of Sunday, April 28, 1974, like I was, slipping into that great public bath, that vat, that spa, that regional physio-therapy tank, that White Sulphur Springs, that Marienbad, that Ganges, that River Jordan for a million souls which is the Sunday New York Times. Soon I was submerged, weightless, suspended in the tepid depths of the thing, in Arts & Leisure, Section 2, page 19, in a perfect state of sensory deprivation when all at once an extraordinary thing happened: I noticed something!
If you're wondering what it was that he noticed, then buy the book you cheap b*stards. :D

Frownland 05-18-2018 11:20 AM

He was an excellent writer but I don't like how he's associated with journalism tbh, he has too much commentary and embellishment. Not that that's bad, it's just not journalistic. I view his books more as fiction influenced by true stories than non-fiction books.

OccultHawk 05-18-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1952168)
He was an excellent writer but I don't like how he's associated with journalism tbh, he has too much commentary and embellishment. Not that that's bad, it's just not journalistic. I view his books more as fiction influenced by true stories than non-fiction books.

You must hate Hunter then...

Frownland 05-18-2018 11:29 AM

As a journalist? Yes. I love them both as writers, social commentators, and creative minds though.

Lisnaholic 05-18-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1952168)
He was an excellent writer but I don't like how he's associated with journalism tbh, he has too much commentary and embellishment. Not that that's bad, it's just not journalistic. I view his books more as fiction influenced by true stories than non-fiction books.

^ It's true that anyone expecting the discipline of conventional journalism is gonna be pretty surprised by Tom Wolfe's approach. That's partly why he coined the term "New Journalism" for what some people were beginning to write.

Anyone by any chance read TW's "The Kingdom of Speech" or his last novels, "Back to Blood" or "Charlotte Summers" ? Turns out they're about the only books of his I haven't read: I must be more of a fanboy than I thought.

OccultHawk 05-20-2018 10:15 AM

RIP

Music Banter video clips.

OccultHawk 05-23-2018 08:55 AM

Phillip Roth

Trollheart 05-23-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1952941)
RIP

Music Banter video clips.

Reports of their demise have been greatly exaggerated...

Exo 05-23-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1954170)
Phillip Roth

Le Guin, Wolfe, Roth...

George is next.

OccultHawk 05-23-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1954179)
Le Guin, Wolfe, Roth...

George is next.

George Saunders?

Exo 05-23-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1954205)
George Saunders?

Are Are Marteeen.

debaserr 05-23-2018 03:28 PM

Speaking of Saunders.

RIP John Saunders and his show, The Sports Reporters. Real class act. He died in 2016.

kibbeh 05-25-2018 06:21 PM

https://i.imgur.com/QPhxQ1R.jpg

Black Francis 05-25-2018 06:24 PM

^ Classic TB.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1955035)
I guess only anyone who has been into PC gaming would know this one but

damn

YouTube star John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain dies aged 33 - BBC News

I knew this one would personally affect me tho i knew it would be coming soon. His wife, Jesse and Dodger must be devastated.

The Batlord 05-25-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1955035)
I guess only anyone who has been into PC gaming would know this one but

damn

YouTube star John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain dies aged 33 - BBC News

Didn't know him but I saw the story when he retired. Apparently he was a StarCraft guy and I was wearing my Day9 shirt when I happened upon the news so I felt some indifferent solidarity.

Black Francis 05-25-2018 06:34 PM

I still revisit his Secret Hitler vids with Nerd Cube and some Co optional podcast episodes.

Chula Vista 05-25-2018 06:49 PM

Have you video dweebs read the book "Ready Player One"?

If I loved it, you guys will be creaming at the end of every chapter. Seriously, best book I've read about the WWW since Gibson's Neuromancer.

https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Player-...ady+player+one

Black Francis 05-25-2018 06:50 PM

Is Keemstar gonna report his death? Will the gnome prophecy come true?

The Batlord 05-25-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1955052)
Is Keemstar gonna report his death? Will the gnome prophecy come true?

Tell me there's a Keemstar story.

Black Francis 05-25-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1955053)
Tell me there's a Keemstar story.

This is old stuff from back when TB's cancer was starting to become known public. Keemstar tags ppl on tweeter "you made the news" if he covers something about them in Dramaalert and TB tweeted back at him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUXd4ubUsAA2VVn.jpg

And Keemstar replied with this gem.


Black Francis 05-25-2018 07:32 PM

Sht, im late. Keem alread tweeted this:

"I did not like him & he did not like me at all! But he was a voice for the community & fought for what was right & for that i will always respect him. This community lost a great voice."

He's not covering the story out of respect for him. He wouldn't have wanted that.

The Batlord 05-25-2018 07:44 PM

Damn.

Justthefacts 05-25-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1955051)
Have you video dweebs read the book "Ready Player One"?

If I loved it, you guys will be creaming at the end of every chapter. Seriously, best book I've read about the WWW since Gibson's Neuromancer.

https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Player-...ady+player+one

Has Steven Spielberg died?

Janszoon 05-26-2018 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1955051)
Have you video dweebs read the book "Ready Player One"?

If I loved it, you guys will be creaming at the end of every chapter. Seriously, best book I've read about the WWW since Gibson's Neuromancer.

https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Player-...ady+player+one

I read it a few months ago. Definitely a fun read.

Stephen 05-27-2018 10:25 PM

RIP Andy McQueen - Exploding White Mice

Frownland 05-30-2018 07:06 PM

Damn.

R.I.P. Josh Martin, Anal **** guitarist has died at 45

The Batlord 05-30-2018 07:12 PM

At least two down. Band wasn't meant to live to old age though.

OccultHawk 05-30-2018 07:34 PM

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Josh Martin, longtime guitarist of Newton, Massachusetts grindcore band Anal ****, has died after falling off an escalator, Vanyaland reports and a representative from Martin’s band Failure Clinic confirmed to Pitchfork. He was 45. According to a police report (via local CBS affiliate WPRI), Martin was “clowning around and riding the rail of the escalator” before he fell and suffered a fatal head injury.
Please god let the video leak

Black Francis 05-30-2018 08:41 PM

Geesh.

Frownland 05-30-2018 08:42 PM


Trollheart 06-01-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1956206)
Please god let the video leak

I just hope this doesn't escalate.

The Batlord 06-01-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1956919)
I just hope this doesn't escalate.

I see this thread is descending.


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