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Apparently you don't think whites who support blm are

I'm just saying at the same ratio that your elitist white friends disparage hip hop I expect the same ratio but inversed to appreciate hip hop asking black blm supporters.. since I'm just guessing that being black they are less likely to disparage the number one fprm of black music the same way that you and your white friends do. That's simply A guess based on my experience.... As I'm sure your comments are based on your own experience.

Bill O'Reilly versus a triggered stan.

I wouldn't take it personally, TH, if people don't recognize or care. The best you can do is post someone's death that was well-known for their craft and hope that someone is interested in, maybe, going beyond their safe area to find out more - a history, an influence, etc.

As for what I post in the R.I.P. thread, it usually sits in an area connected to what, at least some, people talk about here. Yeah, I'm gonna point to someone in jazz, rock, rap, "world" music, etc, but I see no reason to point out that someone as musically well-known as Christa Ludwig or Bob Fass died on Saturday because they are within artforms that are rarely spoken of here (when there's the relatively slim chance that music is actually discussed here). And, yes, sometimes it's just personal preference that decides what gets posted. That's how we learn about others.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2170520)

Just cos you've never heard of Steinman doesn't mean nobody has. I had no clue - still don't - who DMX is/was, but quite clearly the only reason he got so much coverage here was due to addidass's decision that he was going to rake him over the coals about his homophobic lyrics. It's nothing against DMX, just a reaction to Batty's flippant comment which implies nobody knew who Steinman was, which I assure you people certainly did.

I reckon had adi not gone on his rant there would have been a post or two about BMX sorry DMX and that would have been it. My point being that unless you're ****ing HUGE like Prince or Bowie, you need to have done or been accused of having done something controversial for people to take notice. Rostasi posts eulogies to people here all the time whom I don't know - mostly jazz guys I guess - and nobody acknowledges them, or very seldom anyway. I just feel for a talent like Steinman to pass and nobody know or care, but a rapper who I didn't know (and why would I? I know sod-all about the hip of the hop) to get so much coverage annoys me a little. Probably would not have had it not been for Batty's sarcasm, which really was uncalled for, but that's Batty for you.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2170524)

batlords comment was after yours as far as I can see. You went straight into whining that nobody mentioned dudes death before batlord said anything which once again... If he was that big people would probably be talking about him. I never heard of him. And I don't care that you never heard of DMX nor would I have expected you to.

You know, **** it. I checked and you're right. I take it back. I'm a whiny bitch. Just upset about losing Steinman. My bad.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2170525)

the fact you can't appreciate an artist like dmx is somewhat disappointing given your gloomy/goth aesthetic. He's actually the perfect rapper for someone with a bleak outlook on life. Too bad you're too white to like hip hop.

That's racist.
Would be a great album title for a white rapper though.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2170529)

Suburban white people are the largest market for everything.

Especially Ford Suburbans.

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Danny brown is good but he's the kind of rapper that is typical for a white boy rock fan who doesn't like rap.

The fact that you can't appreciate rappers like DMX or Prodigy makes you seem way less punk rock to me tbh

I didn't like the Da Vinci Code though.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170533)

the type of white people that liked DXM when I was growing make "Blue Lives Matter" their Facebook cover photo now

:laughing:
Hold on.. BLUE lives matter? What - dolphins? Shrug.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170536)

my point was this "too white" thing is pretty limp

I'm pretty critical of Stadium Rock too

But you like Kid Rock, right?

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2170537)

My point is you are actually too white

You are obsessed with some punk rock aesthetic that makes you dismiss hip hop in general. Not just specific rappers but the art form as a whole. Fight is as you may, that's definitely a whiteboy move. It's literally indistinguishable from rednecks who say can't spell crap without rap as if that's remotely clever. The fact that you diss your parents rock music doesn't change this at all.

Reminds me of someone (can't remember who - Carlos Alomar? Guy famous for playing the fretless bass?) anyway he met Bowie and said "dude was the whitest guy I ever saw! Like, he was translucent!"

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170538)

it is an outrageous statement, but it also might be true

I've never met an "only punk" fan for real

maybe if someone got too into hardcore?

usually punk opens people up to later enjoying avant, noise, electronic, funk...even ironically disco

for example liking the Clash will lead right into liking some dub

people who get too into metal risk ruining their ears ala that Manifest666 guy on this board

Nah apart from that one metal loser here I've never met an Only Metal fan either. Any genre opens up to other genres, whether or not you take that route depends on those characteristics I mentioned, like curiosity. Thinking punk is some special bridge to more difficult music is your tunnel vision.

People who won't go farther into music (because they're not curious for example) only take the music that's thrown in their way. Metal and hip hop are far more popular genres than punk nowadays, so in total you probably won't find as many metal and hip hop listeners crossing over into experimental stuff, but that's correlation instead of causation. It's not those genres ruining their palate; it's them sticking to popular music and the rules of fashion which dictate what that music is. Anyone weird enough to get into proper punk in 2021 already has the mindset to explore further.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170553)

I don't think I really implied this

if I point out that XRay Spex was fronted by a black woman is it a version of "my black friend..."

what if I raise ya the homophobic Bad Brains

Martin Hannett produced ESG too

Yeah I was drunk tbh and being unclear

I was referring to when you were making comments about how "the type of white people who support blm are the same type to be likely to scoff at hip hop."

Which may or may not be true I just thought it's funny that you specifically said this about white people who support blm... I wonder how likely black people who support blm are to have the same dismissive attitude towards one of the predominant forms of black culture in america? Just food for thought.

White people love hip hop. Elph's imaginary friends don't matter.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2170592)

White people love hip hop. Elph's imaginary friends don't matter.

elph's imaginary friends are way more punk rock than you'll ever be.

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2170605)

elph's imaginary friends are way more punk rock than you'll ever be.

At least, they imagine they are.
Is it funny that elph is also a fantasy/imaginary creature?