mallycobain

You can think it's ****..I don't. : ) If you do, then why keep commenting?

GuitarBizarre

Because

1 - Its actually kinda funny.
2 - As much as it may sound like I'm just making fun of you (and make no mistake, I am), I'm actually trying as best as I can to explain exactly why a Kurt Cobain tattoo is probably a terrible idea. Hence why I referenced medical studies relating to the development of cognition. That stuff isn't just some bull I made up, its medical fact, and medical fact says that the chance of you changing into almost a COMPLETELY different person by the time you hit your mid 20s, is actually really, really likely. I'm 23, and I can safely say I'm a completely different person to who I was 5 years ago. I can say the same about everyone I know.

In fact, the change in who people are, between 18 and 25, is so drastic you wouldn't believe it.

And I dunno about you, but I don't think making an IRREVERSIBLE life decision when you're in that situation, is a good idea. Neither does anyone else here, including plenty of people who have tattoos and who like tattoos, and more significantly, people who have a lot more experience of the way people judge other people BY their tattoos, by virtue of being older.

This is a thing that nobody wants to regret, and the majority of people here are speaking from long experience when it comes to how likely you are to regret the decision.

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Dr_Rez

one night I almost got a zeppelin on my arm and i actually regret not doing it.

I also think people with lots of tattoos who are older all dont like some but wouldnt get rid of them if they could. People forget that while tastes change the memory of where you were in life at the time stays. I for one when I am old ugly and wrinkled would love to play guess the tattoo, and remember this one?

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Exo

I don't think I could write posts like this with the knowledge that all I'm going to get in response is "Well, I like it so there. Nyah!"

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hip hop bunny hop

Q: "Why'd you get that tattoo?"
A: "Well, I knew I was going to get a tat' of Cobain, but I needed help deciding which one, so I asked strangers on the internet."

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mallycobain

yep exactly, i do like it and it doesn't affect you guys!!!!!!!! jeez i don't make fun of musicians you like

GuitarBizarre

As valid as that may be in retrospect, you're not some teenager with a favourite band, you're a well rounded human being with way more direction in life and way more experience to boot. Given that nirvana tends to be a "flavour of the <teenage years>" thing as a favourite band, and given that its unlikely the tattoo will fare well in terms of cultural relevance or real meaning, I doubt its a good idea.

Or in other words - Explaining a thing that might reduce some regret, doesn't mean someone shouldn't try to avoid doing something they'll regret in the first place.

Not to mention, unless I'm very much mistaken, this girl probably doesn't even remember when Kurt was alive. There are very few musicians important enough to mean THAT MUCH to someone who never saw them living, to get a tattoo. Les Paul, Frank Zappa maybe, a few others. But Kurt Cobain?

I'm sorry. Regardless of how good, bad, or incredible I might or might not think his music is or isn't, he just isn't that kind of inimitable cultural landmark who will remain relevant forever. I don't think anyone could really argue that he ever could have been. He's no Les Paul, he's no Alan Turing, he's no Mozart. He's not someone whose achievements will ever inform a sense of awe and majesty and utter respect. He is and always will be just another rock musician.

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Exo

We're not making fun of Kurt Cobain. We're making fun of you for...

A. Getting his face tattooed on your body.
B. Not getting the point on ANYTHING we've said.
C. Responding with answers that would make a five year old sound mature.
D. Getting his face tattooed on your body.
E. Claiming you're not retarded then continuing to type like an ape with palsy.
F. GETTING HIS FACE TATTOOED ON YOUR BODY.

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GuitarBizarre

I have not made fun of Kurt Cobain apart from one comment about his drug use and marriage to a psychotic whore. I like his music. Analysis of it formed a small part of my degree. (Did you know a defining feature of grunge is the setting up of implied modal subversions?)

But no matter how I look at it, I just can't see him as an important cultural figure who deserves to be immortalised. I can't see him as anything more than just a rock musician.

And I also can't see why you'd consider this without considering who you, as a person, are going to be in ten years time.

As an example, let me say this.

When I was 21, I had long hair all the way down my back and I was absolutely certain within myself I'd never cut it off, ever. I had long hair and that was that.

Now I'm 23, and I have much shorter hair. Its not a buzzcut, but its a general hairstyle about Jim Morrison sort of length, maybe a lil shorter.

And the reason for that is because I realised that I didn't identify with the people who inspired me to grow my hair long anymore. I didn't think Dave Mustaine was god anymore. I didn't idolize early Hetfield or get excited about 90's Dave Grohl.

And you'd think that wouldn't matter, and for a long time it didn't. I just carried on anyway.

But eventually it dawned on me that what I was doing was representing and buying into the look of a subculture, a group of people, that I wanted less and less to do with. I started to realise how stupid a lot of metal fans and metal bands are. I started to see how elitist they could be and were being. And that just wasn't me anymore. I didn't want to see myself as contributing to that.

And so I showed a barber a picture of Jim Morrison and said "Like that", just so I wasn't showing some sort of false allegiance to a culture I was starting to hate.

And with hair, thats easy. People here have seen my old long haired pictures. People here saw me when I first cut my hair.

But you can't cut a tattoo, and if I'd found myself with a head of long hair I couldn't get rid of, I'd have hated myself after a while. I'd have just seen myself as a symbol of a thing I hated.

So believe me, I know exactly how sure of yourself you think you are. But stop thinking of yourself now and start thinking of who you'll be and how you might change. You will not be the same person in 5 years time. Nobody ever is. And you don't want to be stuck with a tattoo that says you're something or someone you don't want to be.

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Paedantic Basterd

I got my ipod engraved with a Brand New song lyric, and I regret that four years later.