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Janszoon 04-30-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183892)
chill. beacuse i like a certian person doesn't make me retarded.

Is "certian" some kind of ethnicity?

someonecompletelyrandom 04-30-2012 01:55 PM

And another thing, why doesn't anyone pay with change anymore?

mallycobain 04-30-2012 01:56 PM

dude..it's a tattoo...jesus christ.

Exo 04-30-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1183897)
Is "certian" some kind of ethnicity?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZDpUFH--xS...1600/CERTS.jpg

They're a wonderful people with wonderful breath.

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183900)
dude..it's a tattoo...jesus christ.

Wait. Are you getting Kurt Cobain or Jesus Christ on your arm?

someonecompletelyrandom 04-30-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183900)
dude..it's a tattoo...jesus christ.

http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/ima...sus-tattoo.jpg

Not bad.

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coney 2012 (Post 1183898)
And another thing, why doesn't anyone pay with change anymore?

Because thanks to the invention of the debit card and the widespread proliferation of facilities whose goods or services can be obtained through the use of such, the common carriage of significant quantities of currency to be exchanged for such goods and services, is a practice in significant decline, resulting in a reduction in the number of transactions whose completion is not exact and would therefore require some form of coinage with which to address any resultant monetary imbalance after the completion of any such transaction.

As a result, small denomination coinage is less common overall and the average person does not carry a great of such about their person, making it counterintuitive to attempt to purchase items with only the aforementioned small denomination coinage.

Janszoon 04-30-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183900)
dude..it's a tattoo...jesus christ.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf...vobbo1_400.jpg

Best of both worlds then.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-30-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1183906)
Because thanks to the invention of the debit card and the widespread proliferation of facilities whose goods or services can be obtained through the use of such, the common carriage of significant quantities of currency to be exchanged for such goods and services, is a practice in significant decline, resulting in a reduction in the number of transactions whose completion is not exact and would therefore require some form of coinage with which to address any resultant monetary imbalance after the completion of any such transaction.

As a result, small denomination coinage is less common overall and the average person does not carry a great of such about their person, making it counterintuitive to attempt to purchase items with only the aforementioned small denomination coinage.

please stop with the rude commets.. u act like im a retart.

Dr_Rez 04-30-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1183908)

Janszoon wins. End of story.

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183900)
dude..it's a tattoo...jesus christ.

Yes. Its a permanent emblazonment of an image by which you will be judged by others around you in some capacity for the rest of your natural life, and which can only be removed in the event of regret by lengthy and prohibitively expensive laser surgery which carries with it a commensurate likelihood of severe scarring.

As a result, it is to be expected that when considering an image to apply to their body in this manner, the average person will spend some significant portion of time considering the possible future implications of the process.

It is also significant that persons whose choices in this regard include the possibility of placing Kurt Cobain on their person, are generally younger than the age of 25, primarily teenage. As a result, these persons cognitive development has not yet completed following puberty, as a healthy human being's cognitive processes are not considered to have fully developed until the mid to late twenties depending on the person. This has been found to be fact by many significant medical journals, and forms the primary rationale behind various arbiters of decision making in law, such as minimum drinking age and age of consent laws across most western cultures.

Correspondingly, the choice of placing such an image permanently on one's body is considered to be a generally unwise idea unless backed up with a significant display of intellectual capacity, sufficient to eliminate suspicion from the minds of others, of the possibility that the person engaging in such a practice will regret the decision a whole goddamned lot by the time they hit their 30s.

Thus far however I have to say you have acted in precisely the opposite manner, and subsequently the general opinion of others in this instance has seemed to indicate we think you're being silly.

James 04-30-2012 02:09 PM

I don't know how real life Kurt Cobain would react to people running around with his face on their skin.

Exo 04-30-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1183922)
Yes. Its a permanent emblazonment of an image by which you will be judged by others around you in some capacity for the rest of your natural life, and which can only be removed in the event of regret by lengthy and prohibitively expensive laser surgery which carries with it a commensurate likelihood of severe scarring.

As a result, it is to be expected that when considering an image to apply to their body in this manner, the average person will spend some significant portion of time considering the possible future implications of the process.

It is also significant that persons whose choices in this regard include the possibility of placing Kurt Cobain on their person, are generally younger than the age of 25, primarily teenage. As a result, these persons cognitive development has not yet completed following puberty, as a healthy human being's cognitive processes are not considered to have fully developed until the mid to late twenties depending on the person. This has been found to be fact by many significant medical journals, and forms the primary rationale behind various arbiters of decision making in law, such as minimum drinking age and age of consent laws across most western cultures.

Correspondingly, the choice of placing such an image permanently on one's body is considered to be a generally unwise idea unless backed up with a significant display of intellectual capacity, sufficient to eliminate suspicion from the minds of others, of the possibility that the person engaging in such a practice will regret the decision a whole goddamned lot by the time they hit their 30s.

Thus far however I have to say you have acted in precisely the opposite manner, and subsequently the general opinion of others in this instance has seemed to indicate we think you're being silly.

Yes, but have you considered how cool it would look?

Hmmm?

HMMMMM????

someonecompletelyrandom 04-30-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1183924)
I don't know how real life Kurt Cobain would react to people running around with his face on their skin.

http://heellisgoa.files.wordpress.co.../01/jame-1.jpg

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1183925)
Yes, but have you considered how cool it would look?

Hmmm?

HMMMMM????

Yes.

Exo 04-30-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1183931)
Yes.

Whatever you don't know me or my story.

mallycobain 04-30-2012 02:21 PM

my god i don't need to explain myself on why I get the tattoos I do, and I don't care what others think, I never have and never will. All I wanted was an opinion on which image people liked best, out of curiosity. I've said that numerous times already. I understand you think it's "silly" or that I am, and in all do respect, I don't care. I didn't ask anyone to lecture me on the obvious "cons" of tattoos. Thanks for your concern though

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-30-2012 02:23 PM

Well you've had about 10 pages to get used to it.

mallycobain 04-30-2012 02:28 PM

yep I have! Thanks : )

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183937)
my god i don't need to explain myself on why I get the tattoos I do, and I don't care what others think, I never have and never will. All I wanted was an opinion on which image people liked best, out of curiosity. I've said that numerous times already. I understand you think it's "silly" or that I am, and in all do respect, I don't care. I didn't ask anyone to lecture me on the obvious "cons" of tattoos. Thanks for your concern though

Which is totally backed up by the fact you literally registered here to find out what others think about this exact thing.

Zer0 04-30-2012 02:31 PM

This reminds me of a close friend of mine who got an AFI tattoo on his arm when he was 18. Boy does he regret it now...

Exo 04-30-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1183941)
This reminds me of a close friend of mine who got an AFI tattoo on his arm when he was 18. Boy does he regret it now...

She doesn't want to hear you opinion so can you just not post in this thread please?

mallycobain 04-30-2012 02:38 PM

k

Zer0 04-30-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1183945)
She doesn't want to hear you opinion so can you just not post in this thread please?

Pretty much contradicts the point of making a thread about this but okay :D

Exo 04-30-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1183947)
Pretty much contradicts the point of making a thread about this but okay :D

LOGIC IS USELESS WHEN KURT COBAIN TATTOOS ARE INVOLVED.

This thread is awesome by the way.

Janszoon 04-30-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1183941)
This reminds me of a close friend of mine who got an AFI tattoo on his arm when he was 18. Boy does he regret it now...

I used to work with a hipster dude who had the misfortune of getting a Grateful Dead skull tattoo in his teens. I think it probably hurt his indie cred at the beach.

James 04-30-2012 03:46 PM

Why is she still here?

Also anyone noticed the two funniest threads in the last few months have involved Kurt Cobain? This and the infamous Pearl Jam in Manchester thread.

Janszoon 04-30-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1183976)
Why is she still here?

Also anyone noticed the two funniest threads in the last few months have involved Kurt Cobain? This and the infamous Pearl Jam in Manchester thread.

I don't think I'm familiar with that one.

James 04-30-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1183981)
I don't think I'm familiar with that one.

Really?
http://www.musicbanter.com/games-lis...hester-uk.html

As well as countless parodies.

mallycobain 04-30-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1183976)
Why is she still here?

Also anyone noticed the two funniest threads in the last few months have involved Kurt Cobain? This and the infamous Pearl Jam in Manchester thread.

um, maybe because it's a thread I started?

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183985)
um, maybe because it's a thread I started?

I started my last dump. But there comes a time when you have to realise what you've created is shit.

mallycobain 04-30-2012 03:58 PM

You can think it's ****..I don't. : ) If you do, then why keep commenting?

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1183988)
You can think it's ****..I don't. : ) If you do, then why keep commenting?

Because

1 - Its actually kinda funny.
2 - As much as it may sound like I'm just making fun of you (and make no mistake, I am), I'm actually trying as best as I can to explain exactly why a Kurt Cobain tattoo is probably a terrible idea. Hence why I referenced medical studies relating to the development of cognition. That stuff isn't just some bull I made up, its medical fact, and medical fact says that the chance of you changing into almost a COMPLETELY different person by the time you hit your mid 20s, is actually really, really likely. I'm 23, and I can safely say I'm a completely different person to who I was 5 years ago. I can say the same about everyone I know.

In fact, the change in who people are, between 18 and 25, is so drastic you wouldn't believe it.

And I dunno about you, but I don't think making an IRREVERSIBLE life decision when you're in that situation, is a good idea. Neither does anyone else here, including plenty of people who have tattoos and who like tattoos, and more significantly, people who have a lot more experience of the way people judge other people BY their tattoos, by virtue of being older.

This is a thing that nobody wants to regret, and the majority of people here are speaking from long experience when it comes to how likely you are to regret the decision.

Dr_Rez 04-30-2012 04:15 PM

one night I almost got a zeppelin on my arm and i actually regret not doing it.

I also think people with lots of tattoos who are older all dont like some but wouldnt get rid of them if they could. People forget that while tastes change the memory of where you were in life at the time stays. I for one when I am old ugly and wrinkled would love to play guess the tattoo, and remember this one?

Exo 04-30-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1183993)
Because

1 - Its actually kinda funny.
2 - As much as it may sound like I'm just making fun of you (and make no mistake, I am), I'm actually trying as best as I can to explain exactly why a Kurt Cobain tattoo is probably a terrible idea. Hence why I referenced medical studies relating to the development of cognition. That stuff isn't just some bull I made up, its medical fact, and medical fact says that the chance of you changing into almost a COMPLETELY different person by the time you hit your mid 20s, is actually really, really likely. I'm 23, and I can safely say I'm a completely different person to who I was 5 years ago. I can say the same about everyone I know.

In fact, the change in who people are, between 18 and 25, is so drastic you wouldn't believe it.

And I dunno about you, but I don't think making an IRREVERSIBLE life decision when you're in that situation, is a good idea. Neither does anyone else here, including plenty of people who have tattoos and who like tattoos, and more significantly, people who have a lot more experience of the way people judge other people BY their tattoos, by virtue of being older.

This is a thing that nobody wants to regret, and the majority of people here are speaking from long experience when it comes to how likely you are to regret the decision.

I don't think I could write posts like this with the knowledge that all I'm going to get in response is "Well, I like it so there. Nyah!"

hip hop bunny hop 04-30-2012 04:27 PM

Q: "Why'd you get that tattoo?"
A: "Well, I knew I was going to get a tat' of Cobain, but I needed help deciding which one, so I asked strangers on the internet."

mallycobain 04-30-2012 04:27 PM

yep exactly, i do like it and it doesn't affect you guys!!!!!!!! jeez i don't make fun of musicians you like

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez (Post 1183995)
one night I almost got a zeppelin on my arm and i actually regret not doing it.

I also think people with lots of tattoos who are older all dont like some but wouldnt get rid of them if they could. People forget that while tastes change the memory of where you were in life at the time stays. I for one when I am old ugly and wrinkled would love to play guess the tattoo, and remember this one?

As valid as that may be in retrospect, you're not some teenager with a favourite band, you're a well rounded human being with way more direction in life and way more experience to boot. Given that nirvana tends to be a "flavour of the <teenage years>" thing as a favourite band, and given that its unlikely the tattoo will fare well in terms of cultural relevance or real meaning, I doubt its a good idea.

Or in other words - Explaining a thing that might reduce some regret, doesn't mean someone shouldn't try to avoid doing something they'll regret in the first place.

Not to mention, unless I'm very much mistaken, this girl probably doesn't even remember when Kurt was alive. There are very few musicians important enough to mean THAT MUCH to someone who never saw them living, to get a tattoo. Les Paul, Frank Zappa maybe, a few others. But Kurt Cobain?

I'm sorry. Regardless of how good, bad, or incredible I might or might not think his music is or isn't, he just isn't that kind of inimitable cultural landmark who will remain relevant forever. I don't think anyone could really argue that he ever could have been. He's no Les Paul, he's no Alan Turing, he's no Mozart. He's not someone whose achievements will ever inform a sense of awe and majesty and utter respect. He is and always will be just another rock musician.

Exo 04-30-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1184003)
yep exactly, i do like it and it doesn't affect you guys!!!!!!!! jeez i don't make fun of musicians you like

We're not making fun of Kurt Cobain. We're making fun of you for...

A. Getting his face tattooed on your body.
B. Not getting the point on ANYTHING we've said.
C. Responding with answers that would make a five year old sound mature.
D. Getting his face tattooed on your body.
E. Claiming you're not retarded then continuing to type like an ape with palsy.
F. GETTING HIS FACE TATTOOED ON YOUR BODY.

GuitarBizarre 04-30-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mallycobain (Post 1184003)
yep exactly, i do like it and it doesn't affect you guys!!!!!!!! jeez i don't make fun of musicians you like

I have not made fun of Kurt Cobain apart from one comment about his drug use and marriage to a psychotic whore. I like his music. Analysis of it formed a small part of my degree. (Did you know a defining feature of grunge is the setting up of implied modal subversions?)

But no matter how I look at it, I just can't see him as an important cultural figure who deserves to be immortalised. I can't see him as anything more than just a rock musician.

And I also can't see why you'd consider this without considering who you, as a person, are going to be in ten years time.

As an example, let me say this.

When I was 21, I had long hair all the way down my back and I was absolutely certain within myself I'd never cut it off, ever. I had long hair and that was that.

Now I'm 23, and I have much shorter hair. Its not a buzzcut, but its a general hairstyle about Jim Morrison sort of length, maybe a lil shorter.

And the reason for that is because I realised that I didn't identify with the people who inspired me to grow my hair long anymore. I didn't think Dave Mustaine was god anymore. I didn't idolize early Hetfield or get excited about 90's Dave Grohl.

And you'd think that wouldn't matter, and for a long time it didn't. I just carried on anyway.

But eventually it dawned on me that what I was doing was representing and buying into the look of a subculture, a group of people, that I wanted less and less to do with. I started to realise how stupid a lot of metal fans and metal bands are. I started to see how elitist they could be and were being. And that just wasn't me anymore. I didn't want to see myself as contributing to that.

And so I showed a barber a picture of Jim Morrison and said "Like that", just so I wasn't showing some sort of false allegiance to a culture I was starting to hate.

And with hair, thats easy. People here have seen my old long haired pictures. People here saw me when I first cut my hair.

But you can't cut a tattoo, and if I'd found myself with a head of long hair I couldn't get rid of, I'd have hated myself after a while. I'd have just seen myself as a symbol of a thing I hated.

So believe me, I know exactly how sure of yourself you think you are. But stop thinking of yourself now and start thinking of who you'll be and how you might change. You will not be the same person in 5 years time. Nobody ever is. And you don't want to be stuck with a tattoo that says you're something or someone you don't want to be.

Paedantic Basterd 04-30-2012 04:42 PM

I got my ipod engraved with a Brand New song lyric, and I regret that four years later.


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