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PoorOldPo 05-04-2012 07:13 AM

Ghosts. The Fourth Dimension.
 
Well?

Paedantic Basterd 05-04-2012 09:29 AM

Nope.

Sansa Stark 05-04-2012 09:31 AM

I think we may have a ghost in my house actually, it likes to close cupboard doors and neatly arrange clothing and tickle my feet at night. I also heard it laugh, I think. Cause I thought it was my mother and it wasn't her laugh, but no one else was in the house and a was a lady laugh. Hmmm

My bff apparently has really angry ghosts in her house, there's one in her basement that likes to tell people to get out.

The Batlord 05-04-2012 09:58 AM

No, but I did have a dream about the shadow of a demonic beaver crawling along the ceiling and jumping out at me from directly above the other night. It woke me up scared as ****. I had to turn the radio on just to go back to sleep. I don't know why the shadow of a demonic beaver would scare me, but... *shiver*

WWWP 05-04-2012 10:18 AM

Don't believe in ghosts, myself. I seem to be both the only nonbeliever within my group of friends, and the only one who hasn't has an "unexplainable" experience.

appleghost 05-04-2012 12:14 PM

I personally think ghost's may exist, but that they can be explained scientifically if they do so. There are so many things in this world we have yet to discover, so why not?

Myself, I have never experienced ghosts or any 'supernatural' events, but it's really interesting to read about it!


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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1185661)
No, but I did have a dream about the shadow of a demonic beaver crawling along the ceiling and jumping out at me from directly above the other night. It woke me up scared as ****. I had to turn the radio on just to go back to sleep. I don't know why the shadow of a demonic beaver would scare me, but... *shiver*

Haha, I had a dream once... twice, actually, where I witnessed a skeleton on a kick scooter robbing a bank. I was scared as... well, yeah. It was extremely creepy.

Burning Down 05-04-2012 12:29 PM

I've never had any paranormal experiences. I don't believe in ghosts and I also think that all those TV shows like "Ghost Adventures" and "Ghost Hunters International" are absolute bullshit.

PoorOldPo 05-04-2012 12:43 PM

I have seen a few pretty strange things that I cannot explain as has my grandmother and one or two friends. I dunno if I would use the word " ghost " persay.... But I do know that there is much more out there that we cannot see or understand.

GuitarBizarre 05-04-2012 05:37 PM

The only ghosts I see are these:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...C-G_Cncpt1.jpg

Exo 05-04-2012 06:00 PM

I have two stories. Both involve closing up at work. Both involve the same theater. I'll try to make them as brief as I can without sacrificing detail.

Story 1.

I had closed up all but one of our projection booths for the night. I along with another employee (Jim) who is a close friend of mine were waiting for the last theater to get out. Jim says he's going to go check theaters for change and loose items as he always does and I wait in the lobby. Jim comes back a few minutes later and asks me if I had shut down theater ten yet. I told him I did it an hour ago. He says that I must have missed a breaker because there was music playing in the theater. I told him I was pretty positive that I hadn't but would check it out anyway. Jim follows me and he says that it's odd because it sounds like it's only coming from one speaker and it's a song that doesn't play on the theater soundtrack.

We approach the theater and I begin to hear it. This theater is designed strangely in that when you walk in the screen is on your right. Because of the design there is a wall that prevents you from seeing the very back left of the theater. This is where the music was coming from. Not only was there music coming from that corner, but there had appeared to be somebody singing along with it. It was a female voice and could now be clearly heard. It was not coming from a speaker. Somebody was in there. We stood there and listened until the singing and the music stopped at the same time and we got the **** out of there. We waited in the lobby for somebody to come through the front door which was the only exit not locked by a fire door. Nobody came.

Story 2

This one happened to just me. I was going to lock up the same theater one night. I shut all the lights and breakers off and was exiting the theater, As I said before the screen is located to the right as you walk in, With all the lights off you can not see a thing once you walk about five feet towards the screen. It is pitch black. I was locking the booth door which is in the theater itself when I heard a noise. It was faint at first but grew louder and closer with each passing second. It sounded like either somebody pounding on the hollow wall with there fists as they are running towards me or sounded like somebody running up the isle with heavy boots...stomping. I didn't wait to find out because I booked it out of the theater. Again, nobody came through the exit doors.

I have no explanation of either of these two things. I don't really believe in ghosts but do know there are a lot of unexplained **** that happens to people. All I know is that I did not dream these things. They happened.

iluvwubs 05-04-2012 06:56 PM

I've had a few ghost poo's. that count?

anticipation 05-04-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1185667)
Don't believe in ghosts, myself. I seem to be both the only nonbeliever within my group of friends, and the only one who hasn't has an "unexplainable" experience.

this.

people question me for not believing in ghosts, which is hilarious.

Frownland 05-04-2012 08:15 PM

I'll try my best to explain Exoskeletal's post.

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1185860)
Story 1.

I had closed up all but one of our projection booths for the night. I along with another employee (Jim) who is a close friend of mine were waiting for the last theater to get out. Jim says he's going to go check theaters for change and loose items as he always does and I wait in the lobby. Jim comes back a few minutes later and asks me if I had shut down theater ten yet. I told him I did it an hour ago. He says that I must have missed a breaker because there was music playing in the theater. I told him I was pretty positive that I hadn't but would check it out anyway. Jim follows me and he says that it's odd because it sounds like it's only coming from one speaker and it's a song that doesn't play on the theater soundtrack.

We approach the theater and I begin to hear it. This theater is designed strangely in that when you walk in the screen is on your right. Because of the design there is a wall that prevents you from seeing the very back left of the theater. This is where the music was coming from. Not only was there music coming from that corner, but there had appeared to be somebody singing along with it. It was a female voice and could now be clearly heard. It was not coming from a speaker. Somebody was in there. We stood there and listened until the singing and the music stopped at the same time and we got the **** out of there. We waited in the lobby for somebody to come through the front door which was the only exit not locked by a fire door. Nobody came.

There is a woman living in theatre ten. She has been recently kicked out of her house and decided to take her stereo with her. Duh.

Quote:

Story 2

This one happened to just me. I was going to lock up the same theater one night. I shut all the lights and breakers off and was exiting the theater, As I said before the screen is located to the right as you walk in, With all the lights off you can not see a thing once you walk about five feet towards the screen. It is pitch black. I was locking the booth door which is in the theater itself when I heard a noise. It was faint at first but grew louder and closer with each passing second. It sounded like either somebody pounding on the hollow wall with there fists as they are running towards me or sounded like somebody running up the isle with heavy boots...stomping. I didn't wait to find out because I booked it out of the theater. Again, nobody came through the exit doors.
The woman lives in the hollow wall when she feels that it is not safe to be out. She obviously likes music, so she was probably dancing in her den. Duh.

Ghosts don't exist, brah.

CanwllCorfe 05-04-2012 09:18 PM

No. I do believe in them though. I'm not like those that will see something unusual in a video/picture and claim it to be paranormal. I've never seen a video/picture and felt sure it had to be a ghost. I don't even know if I believe that ghosts are surely spirits of the dead, or are something else altogether. I used to watch Ghost Hunters back in the day, but that went to hell pretty fast. The episodes where they were able to explain everything were boring, but I far prefer them to the recent years where they managed to find something in every episode.

Insane Guest 05-04-2012 09:45 PM

I've heard footsteps at my Grandmother's house, where sadly my my great grandma passed away. It's a big old house that does creek, but these were clearly footsteps outside on the stairs and on the path to the bathroom. Its upstairs and the times I usually hear it is anywhere from midnight to 3:00 a.m. Me and my brother also heard the bathroom light switch click on, and no footsteps going towards or from, never actually seen anything though, I still don't believe but you never know.

Key 05-04-2012 10:09 PM

I'm schizoprenic, so anything I say probably won't make much sense.

PoorOldPo 05-05-2012 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iluvwubs (Post 1185876)
I've had a few ghost poo's. that count?

uh...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1185860)
I have two stories. Both involve closing up at work. Both involve the same theater. I'll try to make them as brief as I can without sacrificing detail.

Story 1.

I had closed up all but one of our projection booths for the night. I along with another employee (Jim) who is a close friend of mine were waiting for the last theater to get out. Jim says he's going to go check theaters for change and loose items as he always does and I wait in the lobby. Jim comes back a few minutes later and asks me if I had shut down theater ten yet. I told him I did it an hour ago. He says that I must have missed a breaker because there was music playing in the theater. I told him I was pretty positive that I hadn't but would check it out anyway. Jim follows me and he says that it's odd because it sounds like it's only coming from one speaker and it's a song that doesn't play on the theater soundtrack.

We approach the theater and I begin to hear it. This theater is designed strangely in that when you walk in the screen is on your right. Because of the design there is a wall that prevents you from seeing the very back left of the theater. This is where the music was coming from. Not only was there music coming from that corner, but there had appeared to be somebody singing along with it. It was a female voice and could now be clearly heard. It was not coming from a speaker. Somebody was in there. We stood there and listened until the singing and the music stopped at the same time and we got the **** out of there. We waited in the lobby for somebody to come through the front door which was the only exit not locked by a fire door. Nobody came.

Story 2

This one happened to just me. I was going to lock up the same theater one night. I shut all the lights and breakers off and was exiting the theater, As I said before the screen is located to the right as you walk in, With all the lights off you can not see a thing once you walk about five feet towards the screen. It is pitch black. I was locking the booth door which is in the theater itself when I heard a noise. It was faint at first but grew louder and closer with each passing second. It sounded like either somebody pounding on the hollow wall with there fists as they are running towards me or sounded like somebody running up the isle with heavy boots...stomping. I didn't wait to find out because I booked it out of the theater. Again, nobody came through the exit doors.

I have no explanation of either of these two things. I don't really believe in ghosts but do know there are a lot of unexplained **** that happens to people. All I know is that I did not dream these things. They happened.


Man...That is creepy as hell. How old is the theatre?

What song was it? That yuou heard.

Exo 05-05-2012 09:56 AM

The theater isn't actually that old which makes it a little strange to have that happen twice.

The song was some soul/r&b song.

PoorOldPo 05-05-2012 10:34 AM

I saw a few strange things. I will explain the most recent one. I was in the kitchen workin away at home on the island table. The hall door behind me a little to the right in the corner of the room.

Anyway, everyone was in bed, asleep in the house, at about 1:00 in the morning. For some reason I felt the compulsion to look behind me, the door to the hallway was half open, and there was a persons upper torso, head looking looking out to the side of the door, as if peering in at me. The head was almost perpendicular to the door.

It was only a glimpse but the person had long dark hair, probably male, and a pale face. I thought it was my mother at first, so when the face had gone ( it was there for like a second before I fully turned around to look at the door, I call " mum ? "

I called her a few times convinced she was behind the door in the hall, until I heard her tired voice call out from upstairs " yeah? ".

Everyone was asleep upstairs, all the doors were locked. I was pretty freaked out. It isn't the strangest thing that has happened to me though, I will tell that in another post.

Freebase Dali 05-05-2012 04:01 PM

I've never had anything supernatural happen to me. I've even gone to places where people have claimed such things, to no avail. My initial instinct about why I don't experience supernatural things is because I don't believe they exist. That's also saying that I think most people who do believe in such things (even on a subconscious level) will be more likely to interpret an occurrence as supernatural, and their minds may even help them along.

Ultimately, since there is no evidence to prove the existence of ghosts, I don't put any stock into their existence. Anecdotal evidence is not the kind of thing I'm led to put above scientific, testable, documented and repeatable evidence.
As such, even if I were to see a "ghost" myself, I would put more stock in the possibility that I hallucinated than the possibility that what I saw was real. Why? Because hallucinations (and not just the mental kind) are scientifically documented, testable and repeatable. They happen all the time, and there is absolutely no reason why an unproven supernatural phenomenon should have more merit than something that is well-documented and proven.

I say all that to say, if a person is interested in truth, they should employ critical thinking in matters such as these. I would be more than happy to believe in the supernatural as soon as it can be proven. Until then, though, I won't.

Paedantic Basterd 05-05-2012 04:06 PM

Certain combinations of electromagnetic frequencies can cause hallucinations in the brain that may be interpreted as hauntings.

Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife, by Mary Roach

Was a good read, unbiased and funny.

LoathsomePete 05-05-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bam You Have AIDS (Post 1186184)
Certain combinations of electromagnetic frequencies can cause hallucinations in the brain that may be interpreted as hauntings.

Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife, by Mary Roach

Was a good read, unbiased and funny.

If you enjoyed that book you need to read Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex, it's one of the funniest books I've ever read.

Paedantic Basterd 05-05-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1186190)
If you enjoyed that book you need to read Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex, it's one of the funniest books I've ever read.

Have you read Stiff? She's a great author. I've got all her books on my must-read list.

LoathsomePete 05-05-2012 04:56 PM

Sadly I've only read Bonk so far. She's been on my list of authors to read for awhile but I've kind of been on an anti-non fiction kick for awhile however I think I can break that for Mary Roach.

WWWP 05-05-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1186183)
As such, even if I were to see a "ghost" myself, I would put more stock in the possibility that I hallucinated than the possibility that what I saw was real. Why? Because hallucinations (and not just the mental kind) are scientifically documented, testable and repeatable. They happen all the time, and there is absolutely no reason why an unproven supernatural phenomenon should have more merit than something that is well-documented and proven.

Yeah, precisely this. I have friends who are always trying to tell me about their experiences in hopes I'll change my mind and despite my "just because it's unexplained doesn't make it supernatural"' outlook and become a believer.

One time a friend, let's call him Idiot, told me this gem:

Idiot had woken up in the middle of the night for no apparent reason. Since he was awake, he decided to go to the bathroom. As soon as he set foot on the floor though, Idiot realized there was a small pool of water formed near his bed. Idiot had no idea where the water came from, but was afraid of it, so went back to sleep. In the morning the water was gone. Idiot blamed it on a ghost.

Upon asking him questions about the situation, I found out that what Idiot did not mention was that the incident took place in the middle of winter (rain season) and he had a leaky roof. Spooky stuff. Spooky stuff indeed.

CanwllCorfe 05-05-2012 07:15 PM

See now that I hate. I prefer skeptics to people who assume something is paranormal without thinking of what else it could possibly be. Having said that, I'm not sure all of the experiences people have had that are attributed to "ghosts", could all be explained by the current possibilities (hallucinations being one of them). Especially in cases where multiple people experience the same thing. Not so much strange "feelings" or anything of that nature (none of that is remotely compelling to me, especially when I feel strange feelings all the damn time), but more specific. Like a full bodied figure. Some of these experiences could come from people who are aware of the location/place and the supposed haunting, and so are then just attributing to what they experienced to their friendly "inhabitant" from the netherworld. But then I doubt this would always be the case, since there's no real incentive to do so. However nowadays, when there's TV shows involved, then you bet your sweet bippy that there is.

WWWP 05-05-2012 07:31 PM

I think that when multiple people experience the same thing, at least in a supernatural sense, a large part of the experience may be due to the similarities in the descriptions of past incidences (whether they are valid or not). Seeing a full-figured "ghost" that is pale and translucent that appears to float around a room or something is something so commonly talked about that rather than assuming it has more credibility because multiple people have experienced it, I tend to assume it's less credible because it seems to feed off of what other people have already described.

I mean, if ghosts existed and people saw them as frequently as they claim to, I suppose there would be similarities in the experiences, but because I don't believe ghosts do exist it feels kind of obvious that the subconscious idea (through media or oral tradition) of what it is to "see a ghost" can be attributed to any given person "experiencing a ghost." Not sure if any of what I just said makes sense, but eh.

I feel the same way about stories of alien abduction or near-death experiences. If you've been told all your life that when you're about to die you see a bright light at the end of a tunnel, when you're in a situation in which you're close to dying you're likely to impose that idea on your experience.

CanwllCorfe 05-05-2012 08:06 PM

Yeah if they say that, or mention anything like "white sheet", their credibility drops to zero for me. It's just as bad as those that see illuminated flies/specs of dust in a photo and say it's a ball of spirit energy. I do think that in time we'll be able to come up with more answers, hopefully. Maybe not. I don't care if we do or don't, since I'm quite happy with weird experiences that aren't paranormal at all. One time me and my brother were going to Wendy's to pick up something to eat, and it was somewhat late (around 9:30). We came to a stop sign, and waited for our turn to go. I think to myself, "It'd be so cool if I looked up, and saw someone looking down at me" (not a person innocuously looking down at me, but a sort of figure peering down in an eerie fashion). Well, that's exactly what happened. He was just standing there. It was a blue-ish room lit up by some old looking fluorescent lights. Because he was standing so close to the glass, the front of him was black and you couldn't see any facial features. All I could see was that he was wearing a plaid shirt and had black hair. As we drove back home he was still standing there in the same exact position, peering down at the road. So, so awesome. My heart damn near stopped when I saw him. I don't know what the hell he was doing that for, but I enjoyed being freaked out.

hip hop bunny hop 05-05-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1185619)
Well?

I don't believe in ghosts or anything like that even though I'd love to, but I do believe in Cryptids. The only ones I've personally witnessed are animals existing far outside the ranges they're supposed to be in. When I was in NE Missouri people at the bar would occasionally show off photos of cougars caught on those motion-activated hunting cams you set up in the woods. That and I'd run into the remains of large deer that were, in the middle of the forest, not during hunting season, that were just.... mutilated. Dunno what could have done that.

I've had other encounters that don't quite qualify as cryptids, but are strange none the less; black widows, huge Brown Recluse spiders (as in, I'd step on it, and the legs would be coming out either side of my boots!), huge ****ing snakes (i swear, approaching five feet), and various random genetic mutations like albino pheasants.

Freebase Dali 05-05-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1186225)
Yeah, precisely this. I have friends who are always trying to tell me about their experiences in hopes I'll change my mind and despite my "just because it's unexplained doesn't make it supernatural"' outlook and become a believer.

One time a friend, let's call him Idiot, told me this gem:

Idiot had woken up in the middle of the night for no apparent reason. Since he was awake, he decided to go to the bathroom. As soon as he set foot on the floor though, Idiot realized there was a small pool of water formed near his bed. Idiot had no idea where the water came from, but was afraid of it, so went back to sleep. In the morning the water was gone. Idiot blamed it on a ghost.

Upon asking him questions about the situation, I found out that what Idiot did not mention was that the incident took place in the middle of winter (rain season) and he had a leaky roof. Spooky stuff. Spooky stuff indeed.


Sounds like a familiar story.
But what's more upsetting is that people will latch on to a belief like that based on nothing more than having heard similar claims, and attributing their own experiences to those claims because it's easier than doubt. And when you have an entire society echoing claims they've heard, things become sort of a social truth that is applied to occurrences indiscriminately and void of critical thought.
That belief doesn't have to be ghosts. It can be anything and it's still the same. It can be a belief in the Candy Man. It can be a belief in a biblical god. It can be anything...
What's so disturbing is that whatever the most popular myths are, those that choose not to actually analyze the information they get and don't try to ascertain the truth of the claim are just as influential as someone who does. Only, they have more support.
I'm not worried about people believing in unsubstantiated things.
I'm worried about the kind of people that believe in unsubstantiated things actually affecting our world.

PoorOldPo 05-06-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1186249)
I don't believe in ghosts or anything like that even though I'd love to, but I do believe in Cryptids. The only ones I've personally witnessed are animals existing far outside the ranges they're supposed to be in. When I was in NE Missouri people at the bar would occasionally show off photos of cougars caught on those motion-activated hunting cams you set up in the woods. That and I'd run into the remains of large deer that were, in the middle of the forest, not during hunting season, that were just.... mutilated. Dunno what could have done that.

I've had other encounters that don't quite qualify as cryptids, but are strange none the less; black widows, huge Brown Recluse spiders (as in, I'd step on it, and the legs would be coming out either side of my boots!), huge ****ing snakes (i swear, approaching five feet), and various random genetic mutations like albino pheasants.

Thats actually pretty cool.





I'll put it this way, I am willing to accept that we can not explain everything about how things work, what goes on in this world and outside of this world. We never will. I think the word " ghost " is a word that makes the proposed topic sound a little childish. I think the " supernatural " is something that we just don't know about necessarily, something outside the realms of our understanding. All I know is, the stuff I saw with my sister was real... We were not hallucinating.

Mojo 05-06-2012 03:26 AM

How would you know that you weren't hallucinating?

PoorOldPo 05-06-2012 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 1186292)
How would you know that you weren't hallucinating?

My little sister was pushed 3 feet forward and bruised on her shoulder, and nothing or no one was behind her. Her phone fell out of her pocket and she thought it was me initally, screaming my name until she looked back and realised no one was behind her. She was in the garage at night feeding out dog, her back to the side entrance of the garage which leads out onto an old courtyard that is beside our house. I was in the shed in the same courtyard when I heard her scream, when I ran out I saw her picking up her phone and asking me why I pushed her. Eventually she realised it wasn't me, she said it felt like someone had hit her with their open palm on her right shoulder.

When we told our mother she told us that a few hours before that she as putting clothes in the laundry machine ( which is in the same room our dog was fed in ) and our old riding saddle went flying off the wall, despite the fact it was hooked on )

When I was 4 I saw a woman in a blue and white gown in that courtyard. It was also at night time and I was also fedding a dog we had at the time, i threw the dog an old boiled potato and i saw a woman standing in front of me looking at the dog, I ran back inside and told my parents, they still remember that night as well. My mother and father aren't really supersticious but even they know something weird happened that night. I remember going into school the next day and telling the teacher and the class and she made fun of me in front of everyone and told me ghosts weren't real.

I am not going to use the word ghost, but those two events happened. I can vouch for that, one is firmly engrained visually in my head and the other I remember because of how unexplainable it was and the fact was sister was pushed so violently out of nowhere.

FETCHER. 05-06-2012 05:51 AM

:O I think there's ghosts in my house but I've never had anything more than a feeling that someone is there and the occasional item goes missing and then when you finish looking for it (remote control say) it's right next to you.

There's definitely ghosts in my work, there's part of the building that's a massive hall and stage behind the stage is so creepy but I think I freaked myself out, I thought I seen someone in the mens changing and shower area, I got unbelievably scared and sprinted out from behind the stage (it was night time lol) I ran down the hall that the stage was in and to the left of me there's a little office with a glass window, I seen my own reflection and literally freaked the **** out :laughing: and ran all the way back down to reception, I have literally never ran so fast in my whole entire life on my run from the top end of the building to the bottom I threw myself down about 8 stairs in fear of getting captured :laughing:

I do believe in ghosts and the like. I think. I've never really seen anything that I'd consider to be supernatural. I feel like I've felt someones presence loads of times and nobody beside me is in the room/house.

Conor 05-06-2012 10:51 AM

Nope...

Paedantic Basterd 05-06-2012 10:56 AM

I always thought it would be neat if being susceptible to "psychic" experiences were like any other talent. If you've ever asked an artist "how do you do that", you'll know they can't really explain it, especially to someone who can't draw. I think it would be interesting if "psychic ability" were an attribute like perfect pitch.

CanwllCorfe 05-06-2012 11:02 AM

Derren Brown did an interview with Richard Dawkins and talks about that. Very interesting stuff!


Freebase Dali 05-06-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1186284)
Thats actually pretty cool.





I'll put it this way, I am willing to accept that we can not explain everything about how things work, what goes on in this world and outside of this world. We never will. I think the word " ghost " is a word that makes the proposed topic sound a little childish. I think the " supernatural " is something that we just don't know about necessarily, something outside the realms of our understanding. All I know is, the stuff I saw with my sister was real... We were not hallucinating.

I'm assuming you put quotations around "supernatural" for the same reason I would. My problem with a lot of people is that they tend to believe that unexplained occurrences are "supernatural" by default. It's basically fabricating a basis for belief out of the lack of a rational explanation. I think the Ancient Aliens meme sums up the fallacy best: "I don't know, therefore aliens." It could easily say the same thing with; "I don't know, therefore ghosts", or "I don't know, therefore supernatural".

Another issue I see is that people have a tendency to label something as unexplained (or not able to be explained) when they have not exhausted all possible options, and probably are not in a position to do so effectively. And, of course, the last option a reasonable person wants to consider is that their own minds and emotions are playing tricks on them. I'm not saying that's the case for you and your family, but I would bet my life that it's the case for a majority of the supernatural-supporting community.

I would wager that if everyone who has experienced something they could not explain had their own personal scientists, neuro scientists, psychologists, and camera crew to help them come to a decision regarding matters such as these, a very large majority of those people would find a lot more reasonable explanations than they would have come to on their own.
But since that's not a reality for most people, they are left to their own analysis, and unfortunately, most people find that to be the most credible of all for some reason.

Conor 05-06-2012 05:24 PM

I think it's a difficult topic to talk about, many people talk and share experiences of un-natural occurances i.e. ghosts and alians. Some are damn right insane and the more settle stories are most effective.

Let me expand that... Some people go way over the top with there dramatic stories saying if flew things across the room and chucked them out the bed like in paranormal activity movies but those more believable like posted on here are more so.

That's my opinion.

crash_override 05-10-2012 11:56 AM

While I don't have any specific sightings to report. I do believe in the phenomenon of the paranormal. I think a lot of people take it too far and end up in wacko-ville, but to rule it out completely is just as foolish as saying a ghost makes you breakfast every morning.


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