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someonecompletelyrandom 10-22-2012 09:38 PM

Doesn't it seem like you might eventually overcome insanity, though? Or at least phase in and out as time passes.

CanwllCorfe 10-22-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 1243235)
Doesn't it seem like you might eventually overcome insanity, though? Or at least phase in and out as time passes.

I don't think so. If my issue is not being able to escape life no matter how badly I wanted to, methinks it'd only get worse as time goes on.

Rjinn 10-23-2012 05:02 AM

I'm with the notion about not knowing what death really is. Then there is the subject of existentialism where knowledge can only go so far as knowing the existence of life. A big reason where made up stories of hell and heaven, reincarnation, nirvana and the even the notion of God knows all because beyond here is really lost to us, so all of them can be credible in a way.

"Nothing" doesn't exist, because "nothing" can't be analysed.

There is no truth, everything is permitted.

Lisnaholic 10-28-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1243006)
Bored for infinity? do you realize how long infinity is?

With the exception of a couple of posts, reading this thread has given me a very clear idea of what infinite repetition feels like ...

sopsych 10-31-2012 01:30 PM

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Living forever would actually be pretty damn exciting. You'd get to see civilizations come and go, participate in events that shape history, meet and have relationships with all kinds of influential, wonderful, unique people.
No, I think it would suck. Too frustrating, due to seeing too many bad things, including negative human behaviors repeated over and over and humanity hardly improving morally.

someonecompletelyrandom 10-31-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom (Post 1246063)
No, I think it would suck. Too frustrating, due to seeing too many bad things, including negative human behaviors repeated over and over and humanity hardly improving morally.

But after eons, surely you'd witness other species besides humanity come and go.

Rjinn 10-31-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom (Post 1246063)
No, I think it would suck. Too frustrating, due to seeing too many bad things, including negative human behaviors repeated over and over and humanity hardly improving morally.

So I'm guessing you're not enjoying your life at the moment either?

FETCHER. 10-31-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom (Post 1246063)
No, I think it would suck. Too frustrating, due to seeing too many bad things, including negative human behaviors repeated over and over and humanity hardly improving morally.

How optimistic. Think about all the wonderful things you would see. I think that you would notice quite a change a change in human behaviour, think about what it was like in the 1940's. Children had to be seen and not heard. Not anymore. What about the early 1900's? Women weren't even allowed to vote! Loads of changes and differences would happen. One of the most significant things in history has happened little over 100 years ago, so imagine what is possible in the next 100-200 years. Then there is the progression of technology and medicine, what if there is a cancer cure a little over the hill? You just have to be immortal to witness it :).

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 10:41 AM

Living forever would be peculiar if nothing else. In 5 billion years or so the Sun is set to balloon, killing the Earth, later the Andromeda galaxy is predicted to collide with the Milky Way, and so an immortal could well spend the rest of time floating through space. That could be quite interesting, but it's also been predicted that all matter in the universe will break down and be converted into energy and that eventually all light will die too leaving nothing but a cold and dead universe.

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1243035)
I had this thought about how death is like:
You were at a state of non-existing once - before you were being born.
So, I think the state after your existance will be just the same as how you were before you existed - nothingness.

Could well be. Who knows. Reminds me of the Buddhist koans: 'what was your original face before your mother and father were born?' and 'where does the master of my being go when I die?' Ponder. Ponder.

p-bo 11-09-2013 11:29 AM

I believe there are universal morals/beliefs that most people share, regardless of culture, religion, or upbringing. Just normal human decencies that most people share. Based of these, and your opinions, he's my question.

You have two people. One with the urge to commit a "wrong", yet refrains from such an action. The other has no such urge and therefore commits no transgression.

Example - Two priests. One is attracted to young men. One is not. Neither ever engages in such activity. The priest who has no interests/desires has an easier road. The priest with the desires uses every bit of his willpower to refrain. Who's better in you eyes/ God's eyes/ the eyes of the common good?

If this example is distasteful to you, fill in the blanks. It shouldn't make much difference what situation you use.

ladyislingering 11-09-2013 12:10 PM

What if the only reason anyone's ever seen "the other side" via near-death experience is because of the last glimmer of consciousness, essentially filling the void with their idea of what would happen if they died?

Mondo Bungle 11-09-2013 12:59 PM

We're all in the Bardo.

Lord Larehip 11-09-2013 01:20 PM

If you don't die, who is going to pay for retirement when your money runs out?

And if my own father's death is any indication, there is a time when it is better to be dead than alive.

Taxman 11-09-2013 01:23 PM

we all are aliens for someone who lives on some other planet.

Mr. Charlie 11-09-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by p-bo (Post 1382637)
I believe there are universal morals/beliefs that most people share, regardless of culture, religion, or upbringing. Just normal human decencies that most people share. Based of these, and your opinions, he's my question.

You have two people. One with the urge to commit a "wrong", yet refrains from such an action. The other has no such urge and therefore commits no transgression.

Example - Two priests. One is attracted to young men. One is not. Neither ever engages in such activity. The priest who has no interests/desires has an easier road. The priest with the desires uses every bit of his willpower to refrain. Who's better in you eyes/ God's eyes/ the eyes of the common good?

If this example is distasteful to you, fill in the blanks. It shouldn't make much difference what situation you use.

Neither is better in my eyes. In God's eyes and the common good's? I couldn't possibly say.

Dulce 11-10-2013 05:20 AM

if i'd traveled back in a time machine - i'd questioned the following:

dark matter versus dark energy or the speed of light or the jesus times or dinosaur times

i dunno, it's like 4:20 AM.

Taxman 11-10-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1382805)
Neither is better in my eyes. In God's eyes and the common good's? I couldn't possibly say.

Don't know but I have been told that a desire is not a sin, it only becomes a sin if you fulfill it.

Mr. Charlie 11-10-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Taxman (Post 1382931)
Don't know but I have been told that a desire is not a sin, it only becomes a sin if you fulfill it.

Agreed. That's why they're equal in my eyes. Neither's actions are harmful.

p-bo 11-10-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1383012)
Agreed. That's why they're equal in my eyes. Neither's actions are harmful.

I'm not looking for harmful. Perhaps a different example. 2 students both score 1550 on SAT. One through hard work and dedication. The other through natural ability with very little effort. Or 2 athletes, musicians, etc...

Basically, do you weigh effort in equal results? Do you penalize people for bare minimum? If you considered Mozart and Beethoven equals, would you add merit to Beethoven as an over achiever or deduct Mozart as an under achiever?

Mr. Charlie 11-10-2013 04:45 PM

I don't mind bare minimum. Indeed I'm an advocate of bare minimum (or one lazy motherf*cker). It's worth remembering that everything in nature likes to occupy the lowest energy state possible - it's called the principle of minimum energy. Be it a hurricane, an earthquake, a supernova or black hole - it's all nature using the least amount of energy it can.





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