The philosophical thoughts thread!
 

Post here whan you think about a smart philosophical thought :p
I'll start:
Be glad you have to die someday. If you lived forever, at some point you would realize you have done any possible thing,and you will be bored.... for infinity

I'd rather be bored than dead.

Bored for infinity? do you realize how long infinity is?

It's ten years right?

Its infinite times longer than the largest amount of time you can possibly think about. its better to be dead.

You know you'd be dead for infinity, right?

At least whan you are dead you dont suffer, you feel nothing, its absolutely neutral....
Which is better than suffering from boredom for infinity, it will surely make you lose your sanity.

I'd rather be insane than dead.

so, you prefer suffering and becoming insane from doing every possible thing infinite amount of times, over being in a completely neutral condition?
lol

In what way is death "completely neutral"?

you feel nothing, remember nothing, you dont feel pain or joy....
you are indeed completely neutral.

We're all different incarnations of the same person. Boom.

Non-existence isn't the same thing as neutrality. It's a definite state of being and therefore distinctly non-neutral.

Also, there's absolutely no way to know for sure what death is like. Maybe it's like grand slam or something?

Maybe it's like being bored for eternity but without the ability to masturbate.

remember: infinity * infinity = infinity. so even if there are infinite amount of things to do, you will have to do them infinite amount of times. YOU WILL get bored and out of my mind and you will suffer.
But if you prefer that over non existing....
Well enjoy doing infinite amount of things infinite amout of times for infinity.

Non existing is neutral because there is no more good or bad for you.

:eek:

I had this thought about how death is like:
You were at a state of non-existing once - before you were being born.
So, I think the state after your existance will be just the same as how you were before you existed - nothingness.

You don't know that though. What if all sorts of crazy stuff was happening before you were born, like batting cages and laser tag, but you just don't remember??????

I'm happy we die. I used to want to be religious if nothing more for the "living for eternity" bit. Not anymore.

Could be,
but as far as my knowledge goes, it makes more sense that I just have'nt existed.
Obviously our knowledge is limited, so we can never really know for sure.

I'm curious why you think boredom is so horrible that it would cause one to suffer. So what if I end up eating pancakes an infinite amount of times or sleeping with with beautiful women an infinite number of times? That doesn't sound like suffering to me.

Also, if there's an infinite amount of things to do, you never need repeat yourself.

That too. And you also don't have an infinite capacity for memory so you'd end up forgetting so many things that they'd still feel new to you even if you did them before.

Sleeping with a beautiful women will be fun at first, but because youll do it infinite amount of times, you will get used to it. it will become less and less fun.
until youll get bored from it. and it will be this way with every single thing...
Doing something fun infinite amount of times is a torture.
Doing every possible thing infinite amount of times.... is the ultimate torture.

You will have tp repeat yourself. infinity*infinity = infinity. remember?
That means, you can and will do infinite amount of things infinite amount of times if you were existing for infinity.

Infinite means never ending. If you have a never ending supply of things to do, there won't be repetition.

How do you know there will be an infinite amount of things to do?

I get your point. but:
There will be repetition. why?
because if there are infinite amount of things, everything will repeat itself infinite amount of times. so you will be basically doing the same things forever.

You still haven't explained to me why being bored would be so horrible. Plus, as I mentioned above, you don't have an infinite capacity for memory. You wouldn't remember the vast majority of things you've done so repeating them would still feel like a new experience.

Well yha. The finite memory thing indeed ruined my idea, so well done :clap: :D

BUT YOU WILL STILL BE DOING INFINITE AMOUNT OF THINGS FOR INFINITY!

Creativity is the key.

So what? Living forever having what feels like constant new and exciting experiences sounds a lot better than death to me.

As I said before, the memory thing indeed ruined my idea.
Though I think our memory is big enough to get us bored from the things we remembered we did. Try to imagine it.

I feel the fact that because our life is limited, we have incentive to do things. Knowing you have an eternity to do things would seem to take that incentive away, since you know you could do that thing tomorrow and the next day and the following day for 100 years and still have forever beyond that. There'd be no urgency. Think about vacation. Lets say you're going to Florida. You love it. You have a great time, weather is fantastic, and you do all kinds of great stuff. Now, what if you moved there? All of those things would get old, and fast. My sister lives there and she barely ever goes to the beach, since she knows it's always there and thinks it's nothing special. What gives it meaning is that it's temporal and novel, and that you only have a set time there. It's also that you know you'll be going back to work, school, what have you. If your whole life was a vacation, it wouldn't be vacation at all.

The only kind of "immortality" I would ever enjoy having would be the kind I could opt out of. I'd like awhile to be around, but I would loathe the thought of never having a way out.

I really enjoyed reading this :)
Very true

It'd be nice to live for a long time, but not forever. I'm sure that the not being able to masturbate part of the contract would suck, but hey, I've done that to infinity already, so I'd already be bored of it :D.

Living forever would actually be pretty damn exciting. You'd get to see civilizations come and go, participate in events that shape history, meet and have relationships with all kinds of influential, wonderful, unique people. There might be long stretches of floating around in space after the Earth dies, but I'm sure you could find a way to retreat into your mind or something, or become inactive until something awakens you.

I've mentioned before, and although some have disagreed with me (we had an interesting discussion in another thread), true infinity when applied to anything temporal or "physical" in the sense that we interact with it as it exists from our perspective of time/space implies that eventually, all outcomes, however unlikely, should take place. If existence itself (not necessarily the universe, but perhaps a multitude of universes in succession of some kind of time-like existential function existing independently from space itself, or even a multiverse in which all possible outcomes exist simultaneously) is infinite, which seeing as we're here I find it hard to wrap my head around the proposition that it isn't (the classic "what gave rise to X"? quandary of classical times), being immortal as a human who can presumably survive the harsh conditions of outer space and the unknown conditions which exist(?)/will exist/have existed outside of our particular universe (if indeed the concept of anything "outside" or independent of all we know is valid) would be FUCKING AWESOME, but the experience of eternity would likely change you so much that you'd hardly resemble your current self, with all of your earthly desires, hobbies, relationships, and experiences.

If a person like that ever came down to Earth to hang out for a bit, they'd be great to have a cup of coffee with. He may even know a "you" from another universe 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 universes ago. Only that "you" married the girl of "your" dreams and had 23 kids, and as is customary on his planet named each one of them after Spongebob characters.

EDIT: There was a good point made about not having an infinite capacity for memory. I guess I just assumed if you can live forever you're some kind of super human, but maybe not.

Thanks! :D

This is the only way I'd be able to keep from going insane.