The 2012 Music Banter User Awards: CATEGORIES

Gucci Little Piggy · 11-23-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

The member with a weird name

Maybe I could win this one? Oh wait, there's the Smegma Covered Bell-End guy as well eh? Fuck.

Nominate me for something please, I want attention.

RVCA · 11-23-2012, 05:01 AM

I think we should include "negative" awards, or at least ones that aren't strictly positive. This community is close-knit enough that I think such awards would mostly be in good spirit, and they have the added bonus of being potentially humbling (see blastingas' posts earlier in this thread).

14232949 · 11-23-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

Am I alone in thinking that perhaps we have an AWFUL lot of categories?

I think a few could deserve to be pruned, tbh...

Most Enigmatic seems to me to be too vague of an idea to have an award over, for one. And while negative awards can be a joke, and positive awards an achievement, I don't really see why anyone would have any emotional response to winning something like this. Its the kind of award that makes me think we should have a thread, maybe in Editor's pick, where people can request that a member talks about themselves and tells us what they're all about. That way we can accomplish what this award accomplishes year-round - We can find out more about someone!

I move to strike this award from the record, and in its place, erect (You there at the back, stop snickering) a thread in editors pick where people submit requests for people to talk about themselves. The request posts would never be approved (similar to the avatar request thread), but they'd be seen, and a mod could PM the subject of the request with info that they've been nominated to participate in that thread. Subsequently their post COULD/WOULD be approved and form part of a thread wherein members give us info about themselves, without having to commit to a personal journal.

Most Mainstream Music Taste - I see the want for this as a companion piece to Most Obscure Music Taste, but honestly speaking, this has the same problem as the other - its not really the kind of award that I can see anyone caring about recieving. I vote that this be removed, and "Most Obscure Music Taste" be changed to "Most Esoteric Music Taste". That way its removing a boring award, and the remaining award stops being a competition to listen to the most unheard of stuff.

Clarification: I see the difference between "Obscure" and "Esoteric" music taste as being the difference between listening to only the most underground and underhyped bands, versus listening to such a wide and diverse cross section of music that it belies a deep appreciation of many forms of music, rather than a singleminded devotion to knowing of the newest and least known artists within a single scene.

It also eliminates the problem that if an artist is absolutely fantastic, they usually remain truly obscure (At least within their particular scene) for only a short period of time. (Some rare exceptions notwithstanding) Surely our award should reward members whose devotion to music includes both wide ranging tastes AND a finger on the pulse?

Biggest Contributor/Member Of the Year - Are these not practically the same award? I don't imagine anyone wins Member of the Year without being a massive contributor to the forums. I say we roll these into one. I know there are differences between the two, but mainly they're that "Contributor" makes people think of threadstarters and moderators, people who contribute in some semi-officious manner, whereas Member of the Year allows simply for people who want to vote for their favourite person.

Anyone else agree? I think with us potentially adding a lot of new awards (it seems), we could definitely do with pruning down or re-thinking some of the existing awards. Otherwise we're going to end up with 3 pages of awards to give out, and people already mostly submit partially complete voting forms anyway!

Agreed with all the above.

Also, I feel as if Best Mediator and Nicest Member are more or less treading the same water.
They should just be combined.

And, I'd do away with most missed member. What's the point in awarding someone for not being here?
Plus, this award alienates newer members who can't really vote on a lack of nostalgia premise.

Mojo · 11-23-2012, 06:54 AM

I disagree. I think that 'most missed' should stay. There are plenty of members who arent around here much anymore and personally I think it's good to remember them. I also think there is enough of a difference between a mediator and a nice person to warrant both awards.

I also have to agree with the decision not to include negative awards. If it were possible to guarantee that nobody would be offended then fine but that simply isnt possible. In most situations you can't guarantee that people won't get offended or hurt but in this situation we can avoid it. I don't think there are any positives to outweigh the negatives in making this decision.

**Exo** · 11-23-2012, 02:37 PM

I just want to vote.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-23-2012, 02:51 PM

Well its not far off. But I don't agree with getting rid of all the negative awards but if the consensus is to removed them then very well.

Neapolitan · 11-23-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

Am I alone in thinking that perhaps we have an AWFUL lot of categories?

I think a few could deserve to be pruned, tbh...

Most Enigmatic seems to me to be too vague of an idea to have an award over, for one. And while negative awards can be a joke, and positive awards an achievement, I don't really see why anyone would have any emotional response to winning something like this. Its the kind of award that makes me think we should have a thread, maybe in Editor's pick, where people can request that a member talks about themselves and tells us what they're all about. That way we can accomplish what this award accomplishes year-round - We can find out more about someone!

I move to strike this award from the record, and in its place, erect (You there at the back, stop snickering) a thread in editors pick where people submit requests for people to talk about themselves. The request posts would never be approved (similar to the avatar request thread), but they'd be seen, and a mod could PM the subject of the request with info that they've been nominated to participate in that thread. Subsequently their post COULD/WOULD be approved and form part of a thread wherein members give us info about themselves, without having to commit to a personal journal.

Most Mainstream Music Taste - I see the want for this as a companion piece to Most Obscure Music Taste, but honestly speaking, this has the same problem as the other - its not really the kind of award that I can see anyone caring about recieving. I vote that this be removed, and "Most Obscure Music Taste" be changed to "Most Esoteric Music Taste". That way its removing a boring award, and the remaining award stops being a competition to listen to the most unheard of stuff.

Clarification: I see the difference between "Obscure" and "Esoteric" music taste as being the difference between listening to only the most underground and underhyped bands, versus listening to such a wide and diverse cross section of music that it belies a deep appreciation of many forms of music, rather than a singleminded devotion to knowing of the newest and least known artists within a single scene.

It also eliminates the problem that if an artist is absolutely fantastic, they usually remain truly obscure (At least within their particular scene) for only a short period of time. (Some rare exceptions notwithstanding) Surely our award should reward members whose devotion to music includes both wide ranging tastes AND a finger on the pulse?

Biggest Contributor/Member Of the Year - Are these not practically the same award? I don't imagine anyone wins Member of the Year without being a massive contributor to the forums. I say we roll these into one. I know there are differences between the two, but mainly they're that "Contributor" makes people think of threadstarters and moderators, people who contribute in some semi-officious manner, whereas Member of the Year allows simply for people who want to vote for their favourite person.

Anyone else agree? I think with us potentially adding a lot of new awards (it seems), we could definitely do with pruning down or re-thinking some of the existing awards. Otherwise we're going to end up with 3 pages of awards to give out, and people already mostly submit partially complete voting forms anyway!

I disagree with all of that.

There's nothing wrong with those categories. I think it would be a nice a thing for someone who just had a ****ty day to log onto MB to find out they had won the Most Enigmatic.

Blarobbarg · 11-23-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Well its not far off. But I don't agree with getting rid of all the negative awards but if the consensus is to removed them then very well.

I'm completely fine with the negative awards. I think they should be kept.

Thom Yorke · 11-23-2012, 11:53 PM

I'd vote no to negative awards. It just seems kind of contrary to the whole concept, and it's almost adding insult to injury to put them in alongside people that are being recognized for something positive.

Neapolitan · 11-24-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

I'd vote no to negative awards. It just seems kind of contrary to the whole concept, and it's almost adding insult to injury to put them in alongside people that are being recognized for something positive.

Yeah, some people can derive pleasure in being disruptive, and being nominated for having a negative charateristics could be a big ego boost for them. But then again whether it is positive or negative people shouldn't take this thing too seriously. Even if they get a negative award it shouldn't be something that goes straight to their head, like it some kind of awesome acheivement.

We can't nominate everyone, and sometimes those who are not nominated might feel left out, hopely they won't think their presence on MB isn't important.

11-23-2012, 06:54 AM	#74 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	I disagree. I think that 'most missed' should stay. There are plenty of members who arent around here much anymore and personally I think it's good to remember them. I also think there is enough of a difference between a mediator and a nice person to warrant both awards. I also have to agree with the decision not to include negative awards. If it were possible to guarantee that nobody would be offended then fine but that simply isnt possible. In most situations you can't guarantee that people won't get offended or hurt but in this situation we can avoid it. I don't think there are any positives to outweigh the negatives in making this decision. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

11-23-2012, 02:37 PM	#75 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,359	I just want to vote. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

11-23-2012, 02:51 PM	#76 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	Well its not far off. But I don't agree with getting rid of all the negative awards but if the consensus is to removed them then very well. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

11-23-2012, 05:01 AM	#72 (permalink)
RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	I think we should include "negative" awards, or at least ones that aren't strictly positive. This community is close-knit enough that I think such awards would mostly be in good spirit, and they have the added bonus of being potentially humbling (see blastingas' posts earlier in this thread).

11-23-2012, 11:53 PM	#79 (permalink)
Thom Yorke Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,848	I'd vote no to negative awards. It just seems kind of contrary to the whole concept, and it's almost adding insult to injury to put them in alongside people that are being recognized for something positive.