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midnight rain 02-21-2013 08:52 PM

Scenario: You are offerend $50,000,000 to kill a man.
 
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You are offered $50,000,000 to kill a man. You don't know anything about him. He is presented to you bound and gagged with a black hood over his head. You are promised that you cannot get in trouble and nobody will ever know as long as you keep your mouth shut. Once you have killed him his body will be disposed of and you will have $50,000,000 in your bank account.
This was posted on another forum, with the "yes" decisions outweighing the "no"'s. So I'll pose the question to you guys. I think MB is a bit of an older crowd, maybe it'll influence choices.

My answer is no.

also, relevant:

Bastard From a Basket - There Will Be Blood (5/8) Movie CLIP (2007) HD - YouTube

Key 02-21-2013 08:59 PM

No. No amount of money could convince me in killing another man.

Black Francis 02-21-2013 09:02 PM

this whole scenario is shady and it smells like a setup..

Janszoon 02-21-2013 09:13 PM

Is the man a UK kitchen spammer? That might sway my vote.

But seriously, no.

Burning Down 02-21-2013 09:31 PM

I would never stoop to the level of killing somebody, and I especially would not accept such a large amount of money in exchange for doing so.

Frownland 02-21-2013 09:52 PM

I probably wouldn't, but apparently people change in moments like that and really find out who they are. I like to think that I'm a good person who wouldn't snap under the circumstances. So no.

Exo 02-21-2013 10:29 PM

Depends. Does the guy frequently change lanes without using a blinker in dense traffic? It yes, then I'll murder the **** out of that guy.

Janszoon 02-21-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1289115)
Depends. Does the guy frequently change lanes without using a blinker in dense traffic? It yes, then I'll murder the **** out of that guy.

If the guy lives in New Jersey, then you have your answer.

Exo 02-21-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1289116)
If the guy lives in New Jersey, then you have your answer.

They all live in New Jersey. I'm infested over here. F*ck Syria...the real problem in the world is how are we going to kill all these assh*les?

Janszoon 02-21-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1289122)
They all live in New Jersey. I'm infested over here. F*ck Syria...the real problem in the world is how are we going to kill all these assh*les?

I feel your pain man, I drive there every day.

Sansa Stark 02-21-2013 11:14 PM

But what if the murder is consensual?

Or maybe it's an assisted suicide?

Engine 02-21-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1289137)
But what if the murder is consensual?

Or maybe it's an assisted suicide?

Yeah, honestly, I would probably kill a person for zero dollars if the circumstances aligned with my values. And 50 mill is definitely enough to make me look into the situation.

midnight rain 02-21-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1289137)
But what if the murder is consensual?

Or maybe it's an assisted suicide?

I was thinking more like Hostel, except for money instead of pleasure.

And you don't know who you're killing. There's a 1/3,000,000,000 shot that it's your dad. Or it could be a hard working guy who provides for his family. Or a criminal.

anticipation 02-21-2013 11:26 PM

yep, without hesitation. 50 mil could do a lot of good for the world, probably much more than one man could with a 9 to 5.

Sansa Stark 02-21-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1289141)
I was thinking more like Hostel, except for money instead of pleasure.

And you don't know who you're killing. There's a 1/3,000,000,000 shot that it's your dad. Or it could be a hard working guy who provides for his family. Or a criminal.

I'd kill my dad for like 50 bucks

Do I get to pick the method of murder?

midnight rain 02-21-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1289142)
yep, without hesitation. 50 mil could do a lot of good for the world, probably much more than one man could with a 9 to 5.

Unless you're donating all that money to charity, I consider that a rationalization.

Engine 02-21-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1289142)
yep, without hesitation. 50 mil could do a lot of good for the world, probably much more than one man could with a 9 to 5.

Haha. Somebody's been reading Ayn Rand.

anticipation 02-21-2013 11:47 PM

i don't read it's too bourgeois namean.

Janszoon 02-21-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1289159)
i don't read it's too bourgeois namean.

I'd reply to this post but I don't read, it's too bourgeois.

anticipation 02-21-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1289161)
I'd reply to this post but I don't read, it's too bourgeois.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Goofle 02-22-2013 03:11 AM

Yes I would. Or at least I say that sitting at my desk. Whether or not I would go through with it in reality is another thing.

Cuthbert 02-22-2013 07:53 AM

No way. If he'd wronged me then I probably would but not an innocent person.

14232949 02-22-2013 07:59 AM

only one answer to this



with that money I'd buy music banter and release you all from your contracts.

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1289141)
I was thinking more like Hostel, except for money instead of pleasure.

And you don't know who you're killing. There's a 1/3,000,000,000 shot that it's your dad. Or it could be a hard working guy who provides for his family. Or a criminal.

either way it doesn't affect the killers life.

Goofle 02-22-2013 08:11 AM

I was also going to post some kind of Daniel Bryan gif. myself.

14232949 02-22-2013 08:14 AM

great minds think alike, but seriously £50 million is a LOT of money, especially coming from a relatively poor background, it emphasises the value of money more.
£50 million would have one set on a life of luxury for the rest of their days, I'd kill 50 million people for that kind of money.

FRED HALE SR. 02-22-2013 10:16 AM

Why would someone kidnap the guy and bring him to me to kill? Why lose 50 mil on the deal instead of popping a cap in him yourself? That scenario is ludicrous. And No I wouldn't kill anyone unless they broke into my house and I felt threatened to the point I had to defend myself.

midnight rain 02-22-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1289234)
Why would someone kidnap the guy and bring him to me to kill? Why lose 50 mil on the deal instead of popping a cap in him yourself? That scenario is ludicrous. And No I wouldn't kill anyone unless they broke into my house and I felt threatened to the point I had to defend myself.

...

It's a scenario lol, take a chill pill. It's supposed to gauge the morals of people.

Plankton 02-22-2013 10:31 AM

Nope.

The Batlord 02-22-2013 10:35 AM

Anyone who said no is just saying that so they won't look like an asshole. I'm not saying that you necessarily would, but if you say that right off the bat then you're full of shit. It's fifty fucking million dollars. Done right you could live off that the rest of your life and never work again. This is a completely life changing amount of money. If you honestly think that you're that moral that you wouldn't even consider it then you're deluded. I'd like to say that I wouldn't but, come on. It's fifty fucking million dollars. I can send a hell of a lot of flowers to his grieving relatives with that kinda dough.

misspoptart 02-22-2013 10:36 AM

The thing is, I would definitely, definitely get caught. I could never do it right.

midnight rain 02-22-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289252)
Anyone who said no is just saying that so they won't look like an asshole. I'm not saying that you necessarily would, but if you say that right off the bat then you're full of shit. It's fifty fucking million dollars. Done right you could live off that the rest of your life and never work again. This is a completely life changing amount of money. If you honestly think that you're that moral that you wouldn't even consider it then you're deluded. I'd like to say that I wouldn't but, come on. It's fifty fucking million dollars. I can send a hell of a lot of flowers to his grieving relatives with that kinda dough.

I posted the There Will Be Blood clip in the OP for a reason :usehead:

The Batlord 02-22-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by misspoptart (Post 1289253)
The thing is, I would definitely, definitely get caught. I could never do it right.

You're missing the point. You not getting caught is one of the conditions of the scenario.
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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1289255)
I posted the There Will Be Blood clip in the OP for a reason :usehead:

Well, I'm lazy and I didn't watch it. :p:

Cuthbert 02-22-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289252)
Anyone who said no is just saying that so they won't look like an asshole. I'm not saying that you necessarily would, but if you say that right off the bat then you're full of shit. It's fifty fucking million dollars. Done right you could live off that the rest of your life and never work again. This is a completely life changing amount of money. If you honestly think that you're that moral that you wouldn't even consider it then you're deluded. I'd like to say that I wouldn't but, come on. It's fifty fucking million dollars. I can send a hell of a lot of flowers to his grieving relatives with that kinda dough.

I'm pretty certain I wouldn't do it, I'm soft as shit, I have never been in a fist fight and I feel bad when I type slightly aggressive posts sometimes :o:. Maybe if I really was in that situation then £50m would be too tempting but if the bloke was innocent I'd probably kill myself after because of the guilt.

I've said if he done something to me then I'd do it more than likely but an innocent guy? Nah.

Paedantic Basterd 02-22-2013 10:44 AM

I don't think I could, not knowing a thing about him. I might if he were an *******.

midnight rain 02-22-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289257)
You're missing the point. You not getting caught is one of the conditions of the scenario.

Well, I'm lazy and I didn't watch it. :p:

well then tl;dr money can drive a man mad :)

Paedantic Basterd 02-22-2013 10:47 AM

I think most people would though, just like the Stanford Prison Experiment.

An artist did something similar recently, where she laid down in a gallery amongst dozens of objects ranging from stuffed animals and perfume to *****s and hacksaws, and she told viewers that regardless what they picked up from the room and did to her, she would not move for seven hours. Apparently it escalated to violence within a few minutes, people cutting her clothes up, beating her, even putting a gun to her head.

misspoptart 02-22-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289257)
You're missing the point. You not getting caught is one of the conditions of the scenario.

NO BAT. I would not be able to keep my mouth shut!! Completely different! :)

FRED HALE SR. 02-22-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289252)
Anyone who said no is just saying that so they won't look like an asshole. I'm not saying that you necessarily would, but if you say that right off the bat then you're full of shit. It's fifty fucking million dollars. Done right you could live off that the rest of your life and never work again. This is a completely life changing amount of money. If you honestly think that you're that moral that you wouldn't even consider it then you're deluded. I'd like to say that I wouldn't but, come on. It's fifty fucking million dollars. I can send a hell of a lot of flowers to his grieving relatives with that kinda dough.

I honestly think i'm that moral and would never consider it. I'm fine living by the means I am now. I have everything I want in life.

The Batlord 02-22-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1289258)
I'm pretty certain I wouldn't do it, I'm soft as shit, I have never been in a fist fight and I feel bad when I type slightly aggressive posts sometimes :o:. Maybe if I really was in that situation then £50m would be too tempting but if the bloke was innocent I'd probably kill myself after because of the guilt.

I've said if he done something to me then I'd do it more than likely but an innocent guy? Nah.

I'm not violent either, but imagine that moment when you have a gun/knife/whatever in your hand and you're looking at this person and you know that all you have to do is do it and right there and then you'll be set for life. No "All I have to do is go to school for fifty years and rack up 100 million dollars in student debt and work my ass off for a boss who doesn't give a shit about me and then I'll have enough money to buy a shitty house and not be able to buy medication when I'm seventy" bullshit. Just, bam, one second you don't have fifty million dollars and the next second you do and you will actually be at the cusp of that moment. You wouldn't do it? You wouldn't have a moment of weakness?

Cuthbert 02-22-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1289269)
I'm not violent either, but imagine that moment when you have a gun/knife/whatever in your hand and you're looking at this person and you know that all you have to do is do it and right there and then you'll be set for life. No "All I have to do is go to school for fifty years and rack up 100 million dollars in student debt and work my ass off for a boss who doesn't give a shit about me and then I'll have enough money to buy a shitty house and not be able to buy medication when I'm seventy" bullshit. Just, bam, one second you don't have fifty million dollars and the next second you do and you will actually be at the cusp of that moment. You wouldn't do it? You wouldn't have a moment of weakness?

It's possible but I know for a fact I'd feel terrible after the novelty of the money has worn off so I'd hope I'd remember that and not do it.


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