Are you democrat, republican, independent, or other, and why?

Pet_Sounds · 09-03-2014, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

or it makes him a psychic felon that foresees the restoration of the right to vote for felons in four years. don't jump to conclusions.

Of course! Should have figured that right off the bat.

FishlessExistence · 09-03-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

socialism is like a dirty word in this country. it is strange because most normal americans i've met favor the few socialist vestiges we have leftover from the fdr era - medicare, medicaid, social security. but ideologically they have been trained to resist any sign of encroaching socialism.

It's a buzzword. I have the following exchange with an embarrassing number of people:

"Obama is running this country into the ground."

"Why do you say that?"

"Because he's a damn socialist!"

"Do you actually know what socialism is?"

Que some vague attempt at an explanation. I've even heard people say it's what Muslims in the Middle East practice. Read a god damned pamphlet sometime, man.

Josef K · 09-04-2014, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

socialism is like a dirty word in this country. it is strange because most normal americans i've met favor the few socialist vestiges we have leftover from the fdr era - medicare, medicaid, social security. but ideologically they have been trained to resist any sign of encroaching socialism.

I mean, yeah, but I'd like to do away with privately-held means of production.

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Which makes you fourteen?

Yep.

DwnWthVwls · 09-04-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FishlessExistence

It's a buzzword. I have the following exchange with an embarrassing number of people:

"Obama is running this country into the ground."

"Why do you say that?"

"Because he's a damn socialist!"

"Do you actually know what socialism is?"

Que some vague attempt at an explanation. I've even heard people say it's what Muslims in the Middle East practice. Read a god damned pamphlet sometime, man.

QFT.

These are the same idiots who have a say in the future of this country. How do you even justify uneducated people having the right to vote?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 09-04-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

I mean, yeah, but I'd like to do away with privately-held means of production.

how?

Josef K · 09-04-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

how?

I'll be honest and say that I haven't thought too hard about how to transition to this, but I'd like democratically-operated worker-run coops to replace the current system.

Josef K · 09-04-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

These are the same idiots who have a say in the future of this country. How do you even justify uneducated people having the right to vote?

Because people should have a say in their government, even if they disagree with you and even if you think they're stupid?

FishlessExistence · 09-04-2014, 07:56 PM

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Because people should have a say in their government, even if they disagree with you and even if you think they're stupid?

Personally I think education is the best way to approach this.

Josef K · 09-04-2014, 07:59 PM

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Personally I think education is the best way to approach this.

I mean sure, but no matter how great our education system is we shouldn't be denying the vote to people because they can't give a satidfactory definition of socialism.