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Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:15 PM

The Allmighty KNIFE Thread
 
So how many of you miscreants carry knives? Or perhaps even collect them? Do you go camping/hiking with them? Do you cook with them in your kitchen...? Ill start ****birds.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4888/qzjs.jpg

Post pictures and discuss.

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 03:19 PM

Don't carry one. I think the law here is anything over 2 inches is illegal and the knife can't lock into place. You are fhucked if you're caught with an illegal knife here.

Pointless anyway, most people won't use one and if it's on you and you're attacked it can be used against you.

Plus I'm hard as nails anyway.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360391)

Pointless anyway, most people won't use one and if it's on you and you're attacked it can be used against you.

.

lol

brb knife as tool
brb opening packages
brb splinter
brb breaking down boxes
brb eating
brb fishing
brb camping
brb shtf
brb cut seatbelt
brb 10 million other non combat related reasons
brb brb

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 03:24 PM

You said do I carry a knife. Going fishing isn't carrying a knife, it's going fishing.

And you've got a knuckle duster there, lol at non combat.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360393)
You said do I carry a knife. Going fishing isn't carrying a knife, it's going fishing.

And you've got a knuckle duster there, lol at non combat.

Lol at the fact I was referring to the statement you said about not needing to protect yourself so no need for a knife. I was making a point (quite obvious one) that knives have many uses beyond stabbing people. And lol at the fact that I collect knives so what does that have to do with anything...

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360394)
Lol at the fact I was referring to the statement you said about not needing to protect yourself so no need for a knife. I was making a point (quite obvious one) that knives have many uses beyond stabbing people. And lol at the fact that I collect knives so what does that have to do with anything...

I said it was pointless carrying one in a public place, can't just take bits of my post and twist it m8.

If you ask someone if they carry a knife I reckon most people would assume in your pocket when you're walking down the street or whatever.

There is no need for me to carry a knife in my pocket in a public place. That's what I said, not that knives have no uses.

x

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360395)
I said it was pointless carrying one in a public place, can't just take bits of my post and twist it m8.

If you ask someone if they carry a knife I reckon most people would assume in your pocket when you're walking down the street or whatever.

There is no need for me to carry a knife in my pocket in a public place. That's what I said, not that knives have no uses.

x

Perhaps that is because of the knife laws being so strict where you are. (Which I think is utterly absurd) In America so many people carry knives that whipping one out evenin a public place usually is fine, as long as it isnt some 7 inch ww2 knife or machete. I couldnt imagine not having some kind of cutting tool with me. If I really cant have a pocket knife then I at least always have a Swiss Army Knife on my keychain that has tweezers toothpic file and small knife. I use it soooo much.

butthead aka 216 08-22-2013 03:41 PM

i carry a small multi tool knife in my pocket almost all the time. you just never know when it could be needed and its not inconvenient to have one. i had a friend about 4 years ago stab a mugger in the neck in the city. since then ive pretty much always carried a knife on me. plus sometimes i get drunk and end up in random places with shady people. so it does make me feel more confident safety wise and also its just practical

Exo 08-22-2013 03:42 PM

Brass knuckles are knives?

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360396)
Perhaps that is because of the knife laws being so strict where you are. (Which I think is utterly absurd) In America so many people carry knives that whipping one out evenin a public place usually is fine, as long as it isnt some 7 inch ww2 knife or machete. I couldnt imagine not having some kind of cutting tool with me. If I really cant have a pocket knife then I at least always have a Swiss Army Knife on my keychain that has tweezers toothpic file and small knife. I use it soooo much.

I have some various knives. I have a couple Spyderco's which I use for various utlities and cutting various things. I also have a few Ruger knives which were built for military use I just bought because they were so reasonable. I agree that knives are so multi-purpose and useful that carrying it strictly for sticking piggies is almost an afterthought. I use them fishing primarily and sometimes for cutting things when I work on cars and houses. I love the spyderco's but theyre ridiculously priced.

Nice lil collection you got going there Rez. As I remember it you were the guy with the Sig also right?

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360396)
Perhaps that is because of the knife laws being so strict where you are. (Which I think is utterly absurd) In America so many people carry knives that whipping one out evenin a public place usually is fine, as long as it isnt some 7 inch ww2 knife or machete. I couldnt imagine not having some kind of cutting tool with me. If I really cant have a pocket knife then I at least always have a Swiss Army Knife on my keychain that has tweezers toothpic file and small knife. I use it soooo much.

Yeah man could be. Just checked - Illegal to carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife. Lock knives (knives with blades that can be locked when unfolded) are not folding knives, and are illegal to carry in public.

I've been stop searched with a blade about an inch long on a key ring before though and the police were a bit awkward about it. You would probably still get a bit of hassle if you carried a Swiss army knife though.

To answer your q I don't collect knives though.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal (Post 1360398)
Brass knuckles are knives?

You didnt expect me to rearrange my collection of weapons just for you turds did you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1360400)
I have some various knives. I have a couple Spyderco's which I use for various utlities and cutting various things. I also have a few Ruger knives which were built for military use I just bought because they were so reasonable. I agree that knives are so multi-purpose and useful that carrying it strictly for sticking piggies is almost an afterthought. I use them fishing primarily and sometimes for cutting things when I work on cars and houses. I love the spyderco's but theyre ridiculously priced.

I love spydies but I agree they are way to much money for what they are. I cheaped out and bought a Made in China Spydie Tenacious. It isnt bed but the screws were so cheap they all stripped and now I cant take it apart.

They paramilitary and such are amazing but not worth like 80-150 bucks for a folder.]
http://x-gear.com.ua/products_thumb/...81gpcmo2_1.jpg

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360401)
Yeah man could be. Just checked - Illegal to carry a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife. Lock knives (knives with blades that can be locked when unfolded) are not folding knives, and are illegal to carry in public.

I've been stop searched with a blade about an inch long on a key ring before though and the police were a bit awkward about it. You would probably still get a bit of hassle if you carried a Swiss army knife though.

To answer your q I don't collect knives though.

I thought though if you could relate it to your job you are fine. Like you could work at a supermarket and say you needed it for work. Maybe they dont care? It amazes me the people let the government take the right to carry knives. I mean who the **** who is going to commit a crime with a knife is deterred because of that stupid law.

butthead aka 216 08-22-2013 03:54 PM

good place to find leathermans or multi-tool knives/swiss army knives is yard sales.


me and a buddy picked up identical leathermans for $5 about a month ago. some old lady was sellin them dirt cheap

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360402)
You didnt expect me to rearrange my collection of weapons just for you turds did you?



I love spydies but I agree they are way to much money for what they are. I cheaped out and bought a Made in China Spydie Tenacious. It isnt bed but the screws were so cheap they all stripped and now I cant take it apart.

They paramilitary and such are amazing but not worth like 80-150 bucks for a folder.]
http://x-gear.com.ua/products_thumb/...81gpcmo2_1.jpg

Thats always been my issue with buying cheap. I know the screws are gonna strip after a bit of use and the blade life even when sharpened properly will not outlast a spyderco. I'd be inclined to buy the under 100 dollar spyderco's but yes approaching 150 bucks is just insane. That being said i'd love to own a paramilitary 2 series but 185 is a bit steep for a knife.

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360403)
I thought though if you could relate it to your job you are fine. Like you could work at a supermarket and say you needed it for work. Maybe they dont care? It amazes me the people let the government take the right to carry knives. I mean who the **** who is going to commit a crime with a knife is deterred because of that stupid law.

You can do that, if you have a good reason you'll be OK. If the average Joe got stopped tomorrow with a knife in their pocket they'd be fhucked though. I can't remember the punishment for it but they do come down harsh on carrying a knife in a public place. Same with any sort of weapon in your car for self defense like a baseball bat. Best option is a Maglite.

I think it's a good thing regarding knives.

Even in your house, if you keep a bat or hammer by your bed, someone breaks in and you attack them with it, you need to prove the weapon wasn't there for the purpose of attacking an intruder, so if you had the hammer on a table next to some nails and a frame you could just say you were planning on putting a photo frame up. If you run through the kitchen and grab a knife from the draw, you're fine. If you keep one by your bed, you're not.

Out of interest mate do you have the same opinion regarding guns (thread is going off topic lul.)

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1360406)
Thats always been my issue with buying cheap. I know the screws are gonna strip after a bit of use and the blade life even when sharpened properly will not outlast a spyderco. I'd be inclined to buy the under 100 dollar spyderco's but yes approaching 150 bucks is just insane. That being said i'd love to own a paramilitary 2 series but 185 is a bit steep for a knife.

Stripping the screws is the reason I carry that Buck 110 or a small fixed blade. It must be just me, but I alays run into mis-sized hex/star bolts strip them and then cant adjust or clean knife.

On that spydie tenacious I had I swear I tried every bit and none of them fit the god damned thing.

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360409)
Stripping the screws is the reason I carry that Buck 110 or a small fixed blade. It must be just me, but I alays run into mis-sized hex/star bolts strip them and then cant adjust or clean knife.

On that spydie tenacious I had I swear I tried every bit and none of them fit the god damned thing.

I feel your pain and have the same issues. I literally hit Sears every other month in search of a new set of hex/stars for either knives or furniture accessories. I think the chinese/japanese build oddball sizes and just sit there and laugh about it over their dim sum/sushi dinners.

Engine 08-22-2013 04:20 PM

I currently have only these four in my possession:

http://www.soonerstateknives.com/BM-...de-Osborne.jpg
http://media.theshootingwarehouse.com/large/32276.jpg
http://www.fightingknives.info/porta...20card%202.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/bal..._butterfly.jpg

The first 3 are top quality - I think that Spyderco's durability and craftsmanship will beat any chinese knock off in the long run.

The butterfly is a cheap off brand (Jaguar) but still fun.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360408)
You can do that, if you have a good reason you'll be OK. If the average Joe got stopped tomorrow with a knife in their pocket they'd be fhucked though. I can't remember the punishment for it but they do come down harsh on carrying a knife in a public place. Same with any sort of weapon in your car for self defense like a baseball bat.

I think it's a good thing regarding knives.

How long has it been like that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360408)
Even in your house, if you keep a bat or hammer by your bed, someone breaks in and you attack them with it, you need to prove the weapon wasn't there for the purpose of attacking an intruder, so if you had the hammer on a table next to some nails and a frame you could just say you were planning on putting a photo frame up. If you run through the kitchen and grab a knife from the draw, you're fine. If you keep one by your bed, you're not.

Out of interest mate do you have the same opinion regarding guns (thread is going off topic lul.)

I think having a bat or whatever you want with the intention of hurting/killing in intruder is more than ok. What you do in your own house should be your decision especially when it comes to protecting your family. Guns Knives whatever should be allowed.

When it comes to bringing them around conceled it is a whole new ballgame and I would like to say yes, people who pass a certain level of background check should be able to carry whatever they want..BUT...we do not have the best system for it in America yet. I mean their are 2 sides to the argument and I understand both.

1st side: Being a gun owner I guess I side more with this...but it does have its flaws. A law abiding citizen should be able to carry what he sees fit to protect himself or loved ones friends wherever he pleases. Not to mention any laws prohibiting people from doing so is not going to stop the criminals and illegal carries from happening. All it will do is disarm the law abiding public that could stop such a thing.

2nd side: While most of the people putting themselves on this side of things seem to not know the statistics of gun crimes very well, or have an agenda they DO have a few very important points. First off more people with legal guns gives more people without access to them. Secondly our background check is hardly thorough. If you have not been convicted of a felony or visibly insane you can get a handgun in 15 minutes. Hell you can just legally buy a shotgun off a friend without any paperwork.

I guess in my opinion (one shared by a minority, not even my own family) I would rather deal with the higher chance of violence with the trade off being I am able to protect myself and my family. Things they should do...
-make people take a test for a carry license (aim/gun knowladge/etc)
-improve background checks
-stop misinforming the general public about guns in general

Engine 08-22-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360408)

Even in your house, if you keep a bat or hammer by your bed, someone breaks in and you attack them with it, you need to prove the weapon wasn't there for the purpose of attacking an intruder, so if you had the hammer on a table next to some nails and a frame you could just say you were planning on putting a photo frame up. If you run through the kitchen and grab a knife from the draw, you're fine. If you keep one by your bed, you're not.

That's insanity.

butthead aka 216 08-22-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1360419)
That's insanity.

:stupid:

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1360421)
:stupid:

:stupid:

Engine 08-22-2013 04:38 PM

This is what I keep under the bed specifically in case of intruders:

http://www.weapons-universe.com/Bran...n-ASP52212.jpg

I have a knife nearby too but I like the extra reach that a heavy blunt object affords. Plus, mentally, I'd be less hesitant about bludgeoning than slashing or shooting.

Burning Down 08-22-2013 04:39 PM

Switchblades (locking knives) are illegal here and carry a hefty penalty if caught with one, but folding knives and short knives in a sheath are fine to carry. I have a Swiss Army knife. My dad has a more impressive collection of knives - he's got some swords, a few Spydercos, 2 katanas, 6 bayonets, and a whole bunch of other random knives.

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1360426)
Switchblades (locking knives) are illegal here and carry a hefty penalty if caught with one, but folding knives and short knives in a sheath are fine to carry. I have a Swiss Army knife. My dad has a more impressive collection of knives - he's got some swords, a few Spydercos, 2 katanas, 6 bayonets, and a whole bunch of other random knives.

I think i'm in love with your dad.

Burning Down 08-22-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1360427)
I think i'm in love with your dad.

Should my mom be worried?

CoolBec 08-22-2013 04:44 PM

As an avid camper and backpacker, my Buck sheath knife, and my Gerber folder and camp axe are among my prized possessions.

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1360428)
Should my mom be worried?

I think until my shaves get a bit closer shes not in any danger.

FRED HALE SR. 08-22-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolBec (Post 1360429)
As an avid camper and backpacker, my Buck sheath knife, and my Gerber folder and camp axe are among my prized possessions.

Dreamgirl you sure does have a purdy lil mouth. :beer:

CoolBec 08-22-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1360431)
Dreamgirl you sure does have a purdy lil mouth. :beer:

I bet you can squeal like a pig cantcha boy?! [cue banjo music]

Cuthbert 08-22-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360418)
How long has it been like that?

As long as I can remember.

Quote:

I think having a bat or whatever you want with the intention of hurting/killing in intruder is more than ok. What you do in your own house should be your decision especially when it comes to protecting your family. Guns Knives whatever should be allowed.
I have actually been burgled myself where we got properly done over, everything gone and the house had been vandalised. When I arrived at the property, I didn't know if there were still people in the house or that we'd even been broken into as we weren't living there at the time (we had a house fire a few weeks before) and I thought people had broken in a few times and left traces in the garden before this. Can't really say how I'd have reacted if I'd have been face to face with an intruder and I had a weapon. I'd have probably just sh1t myself and ran off as when I realised I was in the house on my own and there could still be people in there, I did sh1t myself. There have been a few cases where an intruder has been killed by the homeowner and the homeowner got off though.

Man who killed burglar walks free - Crime - UK - The Independent

Farmer who shot intruder walks free | Mail Online

But if it's OK to have a weapon to attack people in your house, there is a grey area with self defense and excessive force. I don't think it's right to blow someone's head off in anger if they're trying to get away for example. Some people would do that.

Quote:

When it comes to bringing them around conceled it is a whole new ballgame and I would like to say yes, people who pass a certain level of background check should be able to carry whatever they want..BUT...we do not have the best system for it in America yet. I mean their are 2 sides to the argument and I understand both.

1st side: Being a gun owner I guess I side more with this...but it does have its flaws. A law abiding citizen should be able to carry what he sees fit to protect himself or loved ones friends wherever he pleases. Not to mention any laws prohibiting people from doing so is not going to stop the criminals and illegal carries from happening. All it will do is disarm the law abiding public that could stop such a thing.

2nd side: While most of the people putting themselves on this side of things seem to not know the statistics of gun crimes very well, or have an agenda they DO have a few very important points. First off more people with legal guns gives more people without access to them. Secondly our background check is hardly thorough. If you have not been convicted of a felony or visibly insane you can get a handgun in 15 minutes. Hell you can just legally buy a shotgun off a friend without any paperwork.
This is ridiculous.

I can see both sides to the argument but I'd rather be burgled again than shot. If someone enters your house you can get out. If guns fall into the wrong hands then innocents can be killed and guns shouldn't be able to fall into the wrong hands.

Quote:

I guess in my opinion (one shared by a minority, not even my own family) I would rather deal with the higher chance of violence with the trade off being I am able to protect myself and my family. Things they should do...
-make people take a test for a carry license (aim/gun knowladge/etc)
-improve background checks
-stop misinforming the general public about guns in general
Fair enough.

butthead aka 216 08-22-2013 05:21 PM

just wonderin is there a gun control topic on this site does anyone know???

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1360425)
This is what I keep under the bed specifically in case of intruders:

http://www.weapons-universe.com/Bran...n-ASP52212.jpg

I have a knife nearby too but I like the extra reach that a heavy blunt object affords. Plus, mentally, I'd be less hesitant about bludgeoning than slashing or shooting.

Looks like an anal probe to me bro.

Janszoon 08-22-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360457)
Looks like an anal probe to me bro.

It's in case of anal intruders.

Burning Down 08-22-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1360470)
It's in case of anal intruders.

I wonder if oojay's got one then.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1360473)
I wonder if oojay's got one then.

Adidas does.

Neapolitan 08-22-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1360392)
lol

brb knife as tool
brb opening packages
brb splinter
brb breaking down boxes
brb eating
brb fishing
brb camping
brb shtf
brb cut seatbelt
brb 10 million other non combat related reasons
brb brb

I use one for fishing. One time I went with my brothers who are really into fishing and my one brother had a 100 pound tackled box (either UK or US pounds... it's a hyperbole so it works either way). All I brought with was a little stainless steel no bigger than my thumb. I found a stick, then I borrowed some line, hook, and grub. I caught a fish withing seconds, while my brother with his expensive St Croix fishing rod didn't catch a thing all day. So yeah they come in incredibly handy for fishing, absolutely.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1360487)
I use one for fishing. One time I went with my brothers who are really into fishing and my one brother had a 100 pound tackled box (either UK or US pounds... it's a hyperbole so it works either way). All I brought with was a little stainless steel no bigger than my thumb. I found a stick, then I borrowed some line, hook, and grub. I caught a fish withing seconds, while my brother with his expensive St Croix fishing rod didn't catch a thing all day. So yeah they come in incredibly handy for fishing, absolutely.

Please tell more about catching fish with a stick and line? Where were you, and how did you accomplish this, sounds baller.

Dr_Rez 08-22-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360435)
As long as I can remember.



I have actually been burgled myself where we got properly done over, everything gone and the house had been vandalised. When I arrived at the property, I didn't know if there were still people in the house or that we'd even been broken into as we weren't living there at the time (we had a house fire a few weeks before) and I thought people had broken in a few times and left traces in the garden before this. Can't really say how I'd have reacted if I'd have been face to face with an intruder and I had a weapon. I'd have probably just sh1t myself and ran off as when I realised I was in the house on my own and there could still be people in there, I did sh1t myself. There have been a few cases where an intruder has been killed by the homeowner and the homeowner got off though.

Man who killed burglar walks free - Crime - UK - The Independent

Farmer who shot intruder walks free | Mail Online

Well it isnt a requirement for you to have something, only if you want to. If you are not confident with a weapon then do not use one, but don;t infringe on other peoples right to do so in their own own. I know you didnt say they shouldnt, Im just speaking out loud on the subject.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360435)
But if it's OK to have a weapon to attack people in your house, there is a grey area with self defense and excessive force. I don't think it's right to blow someone's head off in anger if they're trying to get away for example. Some people would do that.

Sure it is a grey area here in America as well. My state however has the stand your ground and castle laws which basically say as long as it happens in your house and cant be proved malicious then you will not go to prison. If someone breaks in doesnt hurt anyone and is running away and you shoot them in the back....you are still going to prison. I think the law is pretty good but leaves some grey area for sure. The big trial is the zimmerman one here in the states. Who the **** knows what really happened or who was in danger. They could not find enough evidence to say what Zimmerman did wasnt out of self defense so they let him go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1360435)

I can see both sides to the argument but I'd rather be burgled again than shot. If someone enters your house you can get out. If guns fall into the wrong hands then innocents can be killed and guns shouldn't be able to fall into the wrong hands.



Fair enough.

I see what you are saying, and you have the right to not carry or own weapons. I think their are sick sick people out there who will hurt you, however small the chance I want to have people in my house with a weapon who are trained to use so. I bet your opinion would change if someone sat you down practiced gun safety and helped you shoot. The media paints guns/knives as these evil items, when instead many of the anti-weapon folk could simply learn or become proficient with one and they wouldnt have a problem. Maybe I am living in a dream world however...who knows.


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