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Old 10-23-2017, 12:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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right I agree

my argument was that punk is pop music to begin with but with a lack of production or professionalism

where as pop punk is seriously just pop music with a few punk cliches included
I think it's more to do with the musical culture that produced it, or else a Madonna album with incompetent producers could be punk. In other words, punk is music made by people trying to make punk.
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