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Metric Andy 04-13-2014 08:30 AM

ipod vs ..........
 
Am i the only person who hasn't got an ipod ??
I use a Sony Walkman NWZ E474 or My Nokia Lumia 920 for my mobile tunes..
What about you peeps??

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 09:24 AM

I have an iPod nano and I like it.

Wpnfire 04-13-2014 09:36 AM

I have a few lying around, some of them still use FireWire connections lulz.

I used the iPod 3rd gen. as my first one,
Then I had a shuffle
then I had an iPod Nano as my second iPod
Then I got an updated Nano
Then I got the iPod touch 2nd gen.
Now I just use my iPhone.

I changed all these iPods because the storage capacity was useless! Even the iPod Touch only stored like 16GBs, and I kept buying newer ones that held more.

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 10:06 AM

The 6th generation iPod classic har 160GB

Dayvan Cowboy 04-13-2014 10:09 AM

I have one of dem walkmen dealies too!

Plankton 04-13-2014 10:29 AM

I just use my Kyocera Android phone. I plug it into the car, other peoples stereo's, and I can plug in to any of my amps (using whatever adapter I need), and jam to my own backing tracks. I've been thinking about doing a little bit of a tour around town at some various coffee shops. I'd just need to make a solid playlist and brush up on some things, and BAMF! instant concert.

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Metric Andy 04-13-2014 10:52 AM

How do u find the sound quality?? Do u use the supplied headphones??
I tried a 16gb ipod touch once ,but didn't get on with i tunes.
I prefer the simplicity of WMP....

Black Francis 04-13-2014 11:01 AM

This threads reminds me i don't really know what happened to my ipod.

idk if i lent it to someone, or lost it in a public place, idk what the hell what happened to it i just know i don't have it anymore.

I use a cheap Mp player my ex bought for me from an Avon catalogue. lol

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 11:19 AM

I have the new earbuds, "EarPods", and I think they're fine, but I tend to use my Sony MDR-V55 headphones when I'm at home and portability isn't an issue.

Metric Andy 04-13-2014 12:38 PM

I have to admit that i don't use earphones that came with my Sony wm., but I've had trouble with in ear phones and use a set of Sony ZX300 on ear instead. They were cheap, about £18 from Argos but i find the sound quality excellent..

Trollheart 04-13-2014 01:23 PM

Ipods are ok but itunes sucks balls and the idea that you can't get music onto the thing without using itunes pisses me off. I use a Zen X-Fi and recently resurrected by old Zen Vision:M. I can also now use my Samsung Galaxy S4 if I'm stuck. I can't understand how anyone could restrict their player in such a way. What? Have Apple never heard of drag-and-drop?? :eek:

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 01:26 PM

I think you can get music onto your iPod using Foobar2000, at least that's what I've heard. Anyway, I don't have any major issues with iTunes. It's annoyed me a couple of times, but in general I'm happy.

Trollheart 04-13-2014 01:28 PM

Yeah but with Creative you just find the folder, drag it to your device and copy. Done and done. No messing. I ****ing hate itunes. Add folder, update, find album, synch, transfer, repeat. **** that.

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 01:32 PM

I've used a Creative before, and I agree, it's much easier to just copy without having to use a program constantly screaming to be updated. Anyway, you don't have to sync your iPod before adding music. I use the manual editing option.

Isbjørn 04-13-2014 02:10 PM

I tried it and yes, it works just fine.

Janszoon 04-13-2014 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1439420)
Yeah but with Creative you just find the folder, drag it to your device and copy. Done and done. No messing. I ****ing hate itunes. Add folder, update, find album, synch, transfer, repeat. **** that.

iTunes is just drag and drop too. I've never had to do any of the steps you're describing. If you don't want syncing, just turn it off.

Engine 04-13-2014 02:50 PM

iTunes has always had a simple drag and drop function with Apple devices (iPod, iPhone) but it's not necessarily so easy without them. More on topic, I don't ever see myself getting another iPod or any other standalone MP3 player. Just get a phone with a good amount of memory.

James 04-13-2014 03:10 PM

I couldn't live without my Classic. An essential.

Trollheart 04-13-2014 03:11 PM

Can someone explain how that works? I've tried it before and it never did. If it does it would go a long way to making me rethink the ipod...

Engine 04-13-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1439442)
Can someone explain how that works? I've tried it before and it never did. If it does it would go a long way to making me rethink the ipod...

It works like every other iPod. You plug it into your computer and load it up with music via iTunes.

edit: sorry, I thought you were asking about the iPod Classic. All Apple products work really smoothly with iTunes. Non-apple products often need some kind of 3rd party software to enable drag and drop. That software often doesn't work, or costs money, or both, depending on your device.

Trollheart 04-13-2014 03:24 PM

Sorry for being thick, but that puts them in your itunes library. Can you just drag them to your ipod then? Anyway you still have to use itunes: I'm talking about pure drag and drop. You grab your folders off the hard disk, drag them to your player and they copy over. No proprietary software (no software at all) required. Creative definitely have the edge in this regard. Two steps only, one really, drag and release. It's done. No need to import into library then drag from library to player. Or you can copy/paste direct.

Wpnfire 04-13-2014 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metric Andy (Post 1439373)
How do u find the sound quality?? Do u use the supplied headphones??
I tried a 16gb ipod touch once ,but didn't get on with i tunes.
I prefer the simplicity of WMP....

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1439377)
Sound quality is pretty much based on what you put in it.
The earbuds have always been the bane of existence for Apple.
I often read bad reviews of them, but I can't say for myself
'cause I just don't ever use earbuds. I don't know how the iPod
gets on with other systems, but I've always loved iTunes because
it's so amazingly diverse and so the two work together like a charm for me.

What? Whoever tells you the earbuds are terrible doesn't know WTF they're talking about. They're very good, just WICKEDLY overpriced, but they sound very good.

Also, on the note of iTunes, it's annoying if you want to micromanage and assign every conceivable tag for your songs, but I just organize songs into different playlists and that's it.

I have the playlist and song information backed up 5 times on different flash drives just in case something happens to it.

Frownland 04-13-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1439451)
What? Whoever tells you the earbuds are terrible doesn't know WTF they're talking about. They're very good, just WICKEDLY overpriced, but they sound very good.

It's you who doesn't know wtf you're talking about. They're pretty awful compared to what most would consider very good headphones.

djchameleon 04-13-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1439447)

edit: sorry, I thought you were asking about the iPod Classic. All Apple products work really smoothly with iTunes. Non-apple products often need some kind of 3rd party software to enable drag and drop. That software often doesn't work, or costs money, or both, depending on your device.

That is not even remotely true. I will not stand by idly and watch you slander their good names.

I have never owned an iPod and never will.

I had a creative Zen player a few years ago but once I had my Zune that was a wrap. I loved that device. Now I just drag and drop music onto my Nexus 7 until I get another Zune player.

Trollheart 04-13-2014 05:17 PM

Thanks Rostasi. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it. But itunes does weird things, for me at any rate. A lot of it depends on the ID3 tags but if something is labelled as say Genesis for eight tracks out of ten and the last two are labelled differently (GENESIS or genesis or Genesus or whatever) it makes separate folders for those. I don't like the way it does that. I am someone who will never use itunes. I also hate the Genius thing on the sidebar and the attempts to try to sell you music as you browse. I don't like the way Album is always shown first and then Artiste and you can't change how that's displayed.

I could go on for hours about the things I hate about itunes. I'll never use it. I'd rather be the guy who has "Trollheart's Music Centre" on his hard disk than the guy with the "itunes" library. I just hate the bloody thing and nobody will ever change that. I'm very happy with my players and I don't need itunes or ipods in my life. If it works for you guys that's great but I'll stick with what I'm used to.

TH

Zer0 04-13-2014 05:21 PM

I've had an 80GB iPod Classic for over 6 years but I find myself using my phone for music more than my iPod these days. The storage capacity of the iPod Classic is a major plus, there's little out there that comes close to it (160GB is the standard now). However, I find that just copying a few albums onto my phone and switching them around is more convenient, no point having both my phone AND my iPod when going about my daily business.

And yes, Apple earbuds that come with iPods sound bad. And that's comparing them with a pair of mid-range Sennheiser earbuds and a pair of Philips earbuds I have.

Engine 04-13-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1439456)
That is not even remotely true. I will not stand by idly and watch you slander their good names.

I have never owned an iPod and never will.

I had a creative Zen player a few years ago but once I had my Zune that was a wrap. I loved that device. Now I just drag and drop music onto my Nexus 7 until I get another Zune player.

Well, I did say 'usually' which I thought was true. But apparently you're the one who should explain to non-Apple users how they can do a simple drag and drop from iTunes.

djchameleon 04-13-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1439479)
Well, I did say 'usually' which I thought was true. But apparently you're the one who should explain to non-Apple users how they can do a simple drag and drop from iTunes.

Why would I explain to non-Apple users how to drag and drop from iTunes when I don't even use iTunes at all what so ever and never need to?

I just have to drag and drop the album from the current folder it is in to the device drive when it's plugged in.

Engine 04-13-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1439484)
Why would I explain to non-Apple users how to drag and drop from iTunes when I don't even use iTunes at all what so ever and never need to?

Because you said..

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1439456)
That is not even remotely true. I will not stand by idly and watch you slander their good names.

.. in response to my comments on how to drag and drop from iTunes to a non-Apple device, dummy.

Wpnfire 04-13-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1439455)
It's you who doesn't know wtf you're talking about. They're pretty awful compared to what most would consider very good headphones.

They're pretty awful compared to high-end headphones, but they are absolutely not a POS. Maybe six or seven years ago they were terrible, but they're pretty good now. They even released new headphones for the 5S that are in-ear I believe.

djchameleon 04-13-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1439487)



.. in response to my comments on how to drag and drop from iTunes to a non-Apple device, dummy.

yeah but you didn't pay attention to the part I bolded.

Go back and re-read it.

Engine 04-13-2014 06:28 PM

I think I'll pass but it's all cool.

Frownland 04-13-2014 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1439491)
They're pretty awful compared to high-end headphones, but they are absolutely not a POS. Maybe six or seven years ago they were terrible, but they're pretty good now. They even released new headphones for the 5S that are in-ear I believe.

I haven't tried the 5s buds, but my sister got them with her phone and said they're basically the same in quality. The earphones it comes with are comparable to something that would come in a child's toy package imo. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

Two Spirit 04-13-2014 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1439456)
That is not even remotely true. I will not stand by idly and watch you slander their good names.

I have never owned an iPod and never will.

I had a creative Zen player a few years ago but once I had my Zune that was a wrap. I loved that device. Now I just drag and drop music onto my Nexus 7 until I get another Zune player.

They don't make the Zune any more. You can buy used, but you won't have any support from Microsoft, plus I don't even think the Zune store is still running.

djchameleon 04-13-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Spirit (Post 1439553)
They don't make the Zune any more. You can buy used, but you won't have any support from Microsoft, plus I don't even think the Zune store is still running.

The Zune store is still running because I still use it to download music and I know about having to buy used. I will be getting a 120 GB one.

Two Spirit 04-13-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1439556)
The Zune store is still running because I still use it to download music and I know about having to buy used. I will be getting a 120 GB one.

I wonder how they still make enough money out of the store considering they stopped Zune production three years ago.

djchameleon 04-13-2014 09:25 PM

They still make money from the subscription service.

My first zune lasted me seven years til I lost it. I am sure other people still have theirs.

Ninetales 04-13-2014 09:36 PM

every smart person knows that when Neil Young's Pono comes out, it will crush apple and their smelly ipods with its sheer quality alone.

rip itunes put it in the grave right now

Janszoon 04-14-2014 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1439474)
Thanks Rostasi. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it. But itunes does weird things, for me at any rate. A lot of it depends on the ID3 tags but if something is labelled as say Genesis for eight tracks out of ten and the last two are labelled differently (GENESIS or genesis or Genesus or whatever) it makes separate folders for those. I don't like the way it does that. I am someone who will never use itunes. I also hate the Genius thing on the sidebar and the attempts to try to sell you music as you browse. I don't like the way Album is always shown first and then Artiste and you can't change how that's displayed.

I could go on for hours about the things I hate about itunes. I'll never use it. I'd rather be the guy who has "Trollheart's Music Centre" on his hard disk than the guy with the "itunes" library. I just hate the bloody thing and nobody will ever change that. I'm very happy with my players and I don't need itunes or ipods in my life. If it works for you guys that's great but I'll stick with what I'm used to.

TH

I'm not trying to make you change or anything, if you're happy with what you use that's great, but none of the gripes you mentioned here are are actually problems with iTunes. If something is tagged wrong, you just fix it, which takes only a few seconds, and the problem is solved for good. Genius can be hidden if you don't like it. And it's not always "artist" then "album", you can sort by anything you want with a single click. You can also rearrange the columns into whatever order you want, turn them off or on, search by keywords, etc.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-15-2014 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1439433)
iTunes is just drag and drop too. I've never had to do any of the steps you're describing. If you don't want syncing, just turn it off.

Same, it's drag and drop. So easy. I have an iPod Nano which I still use as it's small with lots of gigs and my phone is Android so I just drop music from the original location into the music folder within the phone. Technology was designed to be this easy.


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