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The Batlord 08-16-2014 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479442)
When it comes to something such as you thinking that you are some alien from another planet, then that would obviously be false. But when it comes to things such as personal opinions about yourself and such, then it would be a scientific fact that whatever personal opinion you have about yourself that cannot be scientifically proven false, then that personal opinion holds true for you and makes you that person.
If something cannot be scientifically proven then it is not a scientific fact since it has not been proven to be a scientific fact.

#sciencefail

DwnWthVwls 08-16-2014 02:32 PM
Just to be a contradictory wiseass.

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As far as "facts" are concerned, scientists will caution you that even though they will appear to be using the term in the same way as everyone else, there are background assumptions which are crucial. When most people refer to a "fact," the are talking about something which is definitely, absolutely and unquestionably true. For scientists, a fact is something which is assumed to be true, at least for the purposes of whatever they are doing at the moment, but which might be refuted at some point.
There are no facts in science.

#batlordfail

The Batlord 08-16-2014 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1479473)
Just to be a contradictory wiseass.



There are no facts in science.

#batlordfail
Not that can be proven to the same degree as a mathematical theorem, but I chose not to be a pedantic ass. Good job.

MattMVS7 08-16-2014 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1479469)
If something cannot be scientifically proven then it is not a scientific fact since it has not been proven to be a scientific fact.

#sciencefail
Even if you were someone who did bad deeds, based on my reasonings, you would still be all great and special if you think you are. I know that I am just talking here with no scientific evidence to back any of it up (aside from the scientific fact that who you are as a person is your brain and that I have based all my arguments on that scientific fact alone), but we can still at least argue about this anyway even without such evidence.

RoxyRollah 08-16-2014 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1479444)
I believe I'm the king of Australia.
I believe this also...isn't that funny, we should start a movement. ..

Janszoon 08-16-2014 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1479494)
I believe this also...isn't that funny, we should start a movement. ..
I don't need a movement. I believe it so it's therefore true.

Guybrush 08-16-2014 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479442)
When it comes to something such as you thinking that you are some alien from another planet, then that would obviously be false. But when it comes to things such as personal opinions about yourself and such, then it would be a scientific fact that whatever personal opinion you have about yourself that cannot be scientifically proven false, then that personal opinion holds true for you and makes you that person.
Well, let's say you believe yourself to be a great chess player. You could set up an experiment in which you play chess against a thousand opponents and see how you do. Perhaps your score will be ****. And then you could make the other players rank you with some score, and they will confirm that you're ****. And the whole world could basically tell you that you're **** at chess. Your statistical analysis might tell you that the probability of you sucking at chess is more than 99.9999%.

Of course you could live in a comfortable delusion believing that you're still a great chess player, but I'm not sure I'd call it a scientific fact. It might be a fact that you're delusional.

MattMVS7 08-16-2014 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1479509)
Well, let's say you believe yourself to be a great chess player. You could set up an experiment in which you play chess against a thousand opponents and see how you do. Perhaps your score will be ****. And then you could make the other players rank you with some score, and they will confirm that you're ****. And the whole world could basically tell you that you're **** at chess. Your statistical analysis might tell you that the probability of you sucking at chess is more than 99.9999%.

Of course you could live in a comfortable delusion believing that you're still a great chess player, but I'm not sure I'd call it a scientific fact. It might be a fact that you're delusional.
Life is about finding your own path, empowerment, and strength in life and not giving a **** about what others think of you and any "selfish" beliefs you might have (and, of course, helping others only if you wish and not caring about what others think if you instead choose not to help others and instead focus on yourself). This is all your own brain and your own life and you make whatever you want to make of it--not what others think who have a negative opinion of any "selfish" views you might have and such.

Neapolitan 08-16-2014 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1479509)
Well, let's say you believe yourself to be a great chess player. You could set up an experiment in which you play chess against a thousand opponents and see how you do. Perhaps your score will be ****. And then you could make the other players rank you with some score, and they will confirm that you're ****. And the whole world could basically tell you that you're **** at chess. Your statistical analysis might tell you that the probability of you sucking at chess is more than 99.9999%.

Of course you could live in a comfortable delusion believing that you're still a great chess player, but I'm not sure I'd call it a scientific fact. It might be a fact that you're delusional.
Busted. Chess players don't get "*" ratings, restaurants do. In Chess you get a numerical rating. e.g. Magnus Carlsen has a peak rating of "2882." (His peak rating is the highest in history.) and he is NORWEGIAN! I thought you should know that. For compirson Bobby Fischer's peak rating was 2785 in 1972. Gary Kasparov peak rating was 2851 in 1999.

Magnus Carlsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RoxyRollah 08-16-2014 04:54 PM
Look who is all superior n ****^


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