i dont think there is one mod in particular assigned to any forum, ill double check and let you know though. (nope, all the mods are super mods and handle all the forums)

I just think its all ****ed up because most of the odler members have heard everything in there paticular favorite forum.and (in my case) are sick of noobs calling posers punk rawk and getting away with it.Then they get all pissy about it and threaten to leave.I dont think you leaving we'll solve much to be honest.I also think mods should just delete spam.Chats never work it didnt work on UG so the mods just started deleting spam.Really its that simple close pointless topics etc...

Its not that simple though. What I consider pointless and what someone else considers pointless may be two different things. Sometimes a pointless thread evolves into something interesting and worthwhile, and, more frequently, original and engaging threads get hijacked and turned into garbage. Do you close those threads, or wait to see if they get back on track? Its always a compelling dilemma. The hardest thing about being a mod is deciding whether or not taking action in certain circumstances is unfair to someone else.

Yeah but i mean if a threads just like stupid and really serves no point like if its "you all suck" ive seen topics like that left open for a long time.Also i think lots of members quit posting and leave is cause they get no respect.Really they have noobs calling them names and no one does **** and there sick of it.I use to IM with rise above alot and he didnt like how he was being treated and hes gone now.

Ive been doing alot of cleaning around the board. Not so much deleting particular posts (although ive done that on a few threads, to keep the thread going without the bs) but mostly deleting entire threads that are pointless. Its pretty much impossible for me anyways to go through and read each post in each thread in each forum. I dont visit some of the forums because, well, simply put, im not too familiar with some of the genres. So unless someone brings something to my attention, chances are Im not going to find some of the problems like in the emo forum for example. I think best bet would be for everyone to keep their eyes open and let me or another mod know when something isnt right in one of the forums. If someone spams a thread or goes off topic too much and other people start complaining about it in the thread itself without letting one of us know about it, its not going to be noticed by a mod unless they happend to go into that particular thread and see it for themselves.

i didnt get 2 know ya...but byes anyways, hope ya find a forum that interests ya & **** lyke that

Satch you're a groupie again by the way. Just so ya know.

And while Im in here, I think the sub-forums would be a good idea. Its not as if people will join just for the lounge, its still a music site. And even if there are a few that do join purely for the lounge, they're sure to post in the music forums after time.

I thought I had more to say, but.. Obviously I dont.

Thanks. I fixed it.

Hallelujah

Someone sees my point at last

AITA ...you`re a star ;)

What would be a good example of some sub-forums, hypothetically, if this were to happen?

like i said , tv film & books , sport ,off topic discussion for news stories current affairs etc & an unmoderated forum for general converstion & silly threads.

Mm hmm, I think a religious/political issues type thang would work well here. We need something like that... Except rules would have to be tighter there, people can get carried away.

I don't understand. By default the lounge is a designated area to discuss topics not related to music, but its fundamental purpose is its a place to relax and be more social than you would in a forum with focused discussion. If you create a bunch of forums within the lounge it ceases to be the lounge and a becomes just a "sub-message board". What is the difference between someone starting a thread about books, movies, etc. on their own accord in the lounge as it is, and someone doing the samething in a forum designated for that discussion. The difference is that the added structure of a sub-forum will lead to people becoming just as disgruntled in the lounge area as anywhere else on the forum. If you keep the lounge it will still serve as a respite for members who aren't about what's going on in the rest of the forum.

does this forum have a spam thread?

Right now, people are complaining because threads in the lounge are far too off-topic and end up in general spamming. If we put boundaries on the threads that go in there, in theory, they'll be more on-topic. Especially if, like Urban said, theres a sub-forum for general crap threads and spamming.

The idea of a "crap thread" sounds appealing. there's been many times where Ive had a random observation/revelation I've wanted to share but knew it was way too pointless to start a thread about. a spamming thread is a contradiction in terms. Spam is a blatantly off topic post. The idea of having a designated place for spamming seems appealing, but it will never work because usually when people spam its unintentional, and when it is intentional its usually by people who are only here with the intention of being a nuiisance to others and will inevitably get banned.

Maybe just set up a warning system for frequent spammers?

But if people do spam the main forum you`ll have the option of being able to move it somewhere rather than close it. Then if it turns back into an interesting thread you can place it back to the original forum , this eliminating the dilemma you spoke of earlier.

I don't know. If by spamming you mean 'hijacking' a thread, or meandering a bit off topic, well, I definitely do my fair share of that, and I'm pretty unapologetic about it. Anyone who is concerned about where a thread is going has the power to steer it back on topic by posting something relevant. On the other hand, there are people on this forum who simply use a thread as a vehicle to start off topic conversation and never seem to talk about music, or at least the topic they're spamming, and for those people, yeah, i think a some intervention is necessary.

I think there should be a warning system so the people know that there being bad and if the continue ban them.

Yeah, I guess, but its not as fun when you warn them first.

But its fair.

I know. Just funnin'.

mmmmm... i think theres a lot of good suggestions been brought up in this thread and weve pretty much heard most peoples opinions on the ideas and issues at hand...

so, has gregb or someone seen this yet?

can anyone tell me how my post count dropped almost 200??

ive never understood why there isnt a mod to each forum- so they each have a designated place to look after and maintain. wouldnt it make life easier for you guys only having one forum to clean up?
like fenix- punk, hookers- indie or folk or something, stachmo...well im still not sure where your main interest lies etc. but do you get my drift? if it means making a couple more people mods then so be it as long as they are competent enough.

I agree with you there except hookers and fenix are already super mods so they probaly wouldnt be the best choices considering the can mod everything already.But as for the idea hell yeah it be easier on everything and all the boards would be nice and clean.

All three of us are super mods. I'm pretty much everywhere except the emo forum and the Indie forum. I think the three of us cover ample ground, We all have different enough tastes in music and interests in areas of the forum that it works out.

Then why are there alot of **** threads?

What threads?

im always debating whether or not certain threads should be deleted. I base it on the responses its getting, if enough people are responding to it then i keep it open untill it gets out of hand. If that means a couple people getting pissed off because theres a green day thread in the punk forum then so be it, as long as there are people discussing in it then it is serving its purpose. As for having us assigned to moderate certain forums, that would work untill one of us goes away for a couple days then someone would have to be able to clean them up while that particular mod is gone. I think were doing a decent job..havent seen an ipod thread stick around for days, have you?

Yes, exactly. Iv'e found out that this is one of the jobs that no one knows what you do until you don't do it.

^ & ^^ = unsung heroes....

and hookers and the others... :D

But then what would you want the lounge to be?

Is it meant for serious discussion or lighthearted banter?

If a mod is even unsure of this then how do you know what to close in there & what to keep open?

This is the point i`ve been making all along. There`s no clarity. People wanting to use it for serious discussion can`t because the threads get buried under loads of silly threads. You stop the silly threads & then you take out the fun of bantering with others on the forum.

If forums like the folk forum or the classical forum can be added that hardly get used by anyone , why not make non music sub forums that you know WILL get used?

maybe because the site is called music banter.































just a thought.

its a lounge, meaning anything goes thats unrelated to music. If you want a serious discussion or tell jokes, its a lounge and that is where you go to "lounge around" and get away from the music for awhile. Im not fully against the sub forums in the lounge idea, i just dont really think there is a need for it since the lounge is basically an open arena for everything else. If someone starts a serious thread in the lounge and its gets burried by other threads, then the "serious" thread may not be as important to the rest of the members. Just because one person feels the need to talk about something doesnt mean everyone else is going to feel that same need, and you cant really blame a failed thread on other threads that get more attention, serious or not.

And it'd stay that way. We've been saying that all along. It would still say a music forum, but the off topic would have boundaries, making things more on-topic, cause it'd be more refined. I think. *Sigh* Im tired, and zee vodka is not helping my case. BUT you get the general idea of what Im trying to say.

Maybe i`m wrong in this, it`s just that since i`ve been here i`ve seen the music forums almost double in number yet the rest of the site stays the same.

I know this site is called MUSIC banter (as I seem to get told on a regular basis), but I don`t really see what the big deal is about improving other areas of what essentially is the SAME site. I don`t really see how a couple of extra off topic forums that are clear in what they contain & have the same posting guidelines as the music forums that are also as well moderated are can do this site any harm whatsoever.

ya, i do. but im just wondering why people are arguing about what and what not should go on the Lounge folder, when the description says "any off topic things should be adressed". if you dont like a certain thread, then dont post in it. by the way, you should try Stoli Cranberry. its like sleepytime for hoods

Yes I KNOW exactly what the lounge is thank you for reminding me for about the millionth time.

Now perhaps you`d try answering why you think expanding on it is a bad thing?