Whats happened?!
 

im sure im not the only person to think this. what has happened to musicbanter. its lost all relevance and nothing interests me anymore. no member (no offence) really catches my attention nor do i look for anybodies posts anymore. ive lost all motivation for this place and i feel as if mindless, consumer whore, ignorant, media-loving fools are just drowning the site of all its good points. basically, im leaving and im saying my goodbyes to the people who actually matter and i hope it improves soon. maybe i'll return when it does.

adios:wave:

see ya later dude....

Bye. *Waits for the Indie forum to die along with the rest*

the threads have been weak lately, and alot of the ppl here i dont recognize either. if everyone who complains about the quality of posts would just make better quality threads, then this problem wouldnt be as bad as it is. Hell most threads are started by newbies, some of which are pretty cool to chat with, others not so much. So standing around complaining about the site isnt helping matters at all, instead it just brings up more wasted space. I say to anyone who is sick of it, either make an effort to
1. avoid responding to pointless threads
2. make a thread about something interesting
3. stop the bitching
or leave. really, its not that difficult. Id rather see a bunch of users having fun with whatever they feel they want to talk about, then have a bunch of ppl complaining and not taking an initiative to do anything about it. Dont like Green Day? dont post in a green day thread. Upset there isnt talk about the latest Indie band from Yugoslavia? then make a thread about it.

I feel ya'. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed. I hope your only taking a short break. Unfortunately its always the intelligient ones who make this place bearable that leave.

i take offence to that! it doesn't exist anymore!

my point was instead of going into each thread and complaining about the contents of it (or lack of) just post in what interests you, if there arent any, then make one.

yeah yeah i got that.....i dunno...i was never really the one to recommend new music so it's not my fault the musical conversations are a bit stale these days...but i think we've gone through something like this a while ago no? and i'm still quite happy to talk to newbies about bands i like...
i dunno...i'm really quite satisfied talking about anything really...weather it's realted to music or not....i'm quite shallow in that way...:)
i've tried talking about the faint and aqueduct ryan adams maybe....few were interested....and i guess there's only so much you can say....

Too many members bring their A-game to the Lounge. I complained about this with a great deal of drama, ended up having everyone hate me, and then got made a mod a week later. Just goes to show that... I dunno where I'm going with this. Although i admit my reign of terror isn't quite as frightening as I hoped.

There are also too many newbs who's primary focus is post whoring in the Lounge. If 95% of your posts belong to the Lounge in a Music forum, that is pretty sad. Not the cute kind of sad.

Basically when all the attention is going to newbs, girl catfights, and popular post whores, the members that actually give a f*ck about music will inevitably feel unrespected, which is why you are seeing that a large majority of "good" posters have left or are fading away.

But as far as I can remember, people have always complained about musicbanter, about something or other. It's our nature to complain. But you have to realize, if the postwhores don't have anyone paying attention to them, they'll go away. Remember that Simpsons Halloween episode with the attacking billboard ads? Yeah, and that song Paul Anka sang. It's just like that. "Just don't look, just don't look. dee dee dee dee"

i dont think i actually matter but goodbye anyways :wave:

I don't understand all this. I am a "newbie". I am much older than most on here but younger than a couple. My music tastes are reflected by my age (37). I enjoy coming on this forum. Sometimes I talk rubbish but believe me I think many others do too. But it doesn't matter does it. I actually spend time away from the forum trying to think up new threads to capture peoples interest but havn't thought of anything worthy. I'm proud of Bands with eatable names.
I can't suddenly start talking about bands many of you discuss cos I know little about them.
Just tell me am I the kinda person you don't want on here.

no dezzy, the post whores as hookers put it are the ones that just post anything and everything that has nothing to do with whatever thread they are in. Those who respond with "they suck" without any reasoning behind it. I dont think you have anything to worry about as far as ppl complaining about your posts.

Oh right thanks fenixpunk. Just got a bit paranoid. I like everyone on here from what I've heard so far. Artistintheambulance is an enigma though.

I solemnly apologise for my post-whorey ways. Ill get better, I swear. *Crosses heart and hopes to die*

mmmmm, ive been trying to improve and give advice to newbies rather than just bitchin bout them..... i dunno if its working but the efforts the important thing right? right? right???

well, LedZep, i feel ya
MB is dead.

i was thinking of leaving, then realised i don't wanna leave, so yeah..

This is a dead forum? Jeez the alive ones must be like internet heaven then….

This is the finest place I know for spleen ventilation, and if it were so crap, Id hardly come back like 6 months after I joined (there were phone-bill related problems in the gap)…Its really top dog for debates (ahem…not that I shop at HMV or anything…damn! Another embarrasing secret outta the sack)even if they are pointless ones on whether someone would have intercourse with a being with the body of Carmen Electra and the head of Tony Blair. Maybe I wasn’t here through the glory days (when, like December??) but if everybody’s gonna jump ship then that’s hardly going to keep it afloat (yeah I know my analogies suck). SO:

DON’T MAKE MUSICBANTER HISTORY, as Geldof would say if he were still alive.

Newbie News Anchor
The Indie Bar Kid

It's summer, the perfect time to be outside...or working. Many including myself don't have the time to post this month or the next. I bet everything will be back to normal by sept. If that doesn't work, then we can always ban all the post whores :)

I'm a newbie but a lot of the stuff i put up people either bitch about or there is no interest so i don't really know why i bother but it's not going to stop me coming and putting my opinion forward as personally i quite enjoy it.

A lot of people are here for the right reasons but then again a lot aren't

okay, the forums are a bit dead, but if people posted in the music bit (rather than the lounge) more, then it'd liven up a bit. (okay, its not like i NEVER post in here)

i dunno....see ya ledzep

i havent been here long enough to know, but i think that the point about summer and vacations etc... is a valid one and this lack of activity is a cyclical thing......

LedZepStu can't leave!!
He's the only person on here who has interesting conversations with me when I post in the Indie forum.
And he's the only person who shares my love for The Libertines and Pete Doherty.
Seriously, he does the Folk forums along with Big3 and adidas......
If he went this forum would be a much worse place.
Hopefully he'll stay because he's very musically inclined and I like what he has to say.

On another note....
I believe the forums are going through a sort of hiatus maybe....
Because I mean when mb was small last year no one could just google it.
When not many people google it you don't get so many post-whores and stupid newbs.
But now...people advertising google "music forums" and this is the largest one so they post their crap on here.
Guests also see that this is one of the nicest music forums and join.
Most of these guests know nothing of music and aren't willing to learn.
This is why the lounge is receiving so much pollution.
That's my conclusion.


Isn't it ironic that I'm posting all this in the lounge?

A little too ironic. Yeah, I really do think.

*hears twilight zone music playing* .......

oh well, stus back, be happy!

he is? MB is messing with our minds and it's making us never wanna leave it!! it's a trap!

Well, maybe there's just nothing interesting going on so people post crap? I dunno... i just come and go as I please... not in here that often anymore... Music's not that interesting at the moment.... I've gone back to listening to all my old albums...

jen xx

I do that every summer. I dig out all the albums that I used to love so much... Im completely hooked on the chilis again now, which is awesome.

I disagree with this.

I think if there were more non music forums where people could talk about other things then people would be more likey to stick around here.

People only go whoring in the lounge all the time because thats the ONLY place you can go on here to discuss other things.

Don`t get me wrong i love music , but it`s not everything. Why not have other forums where people can talk about films , books , tv , sports etc etc etc , I even suggested an unmodrated forum where people can go & make stupid threads & just generally mess around.

You incorperate that , yes you may find people posting less in the music forums , but you`ll have more to keep people here.

In my opinion more people posting occasionally is better than the same people posting ALL the time.

but the gripe i have is that if this is a music forum as its advertised, why the **** does it seem as if music isnt really the main reason people come here?

But it is , otherwise they wouldn`t be here.

Isn`t the main thing that people want to be here in the first place?

Just because they don`t want to post in the music forums ALL THE TIME doesn`t make their reasons for being here any less justified.

all the time? merely some of the time would be nice.

true THAT...

but we dont want people flaming and generally disrupting either.....

I can see you`re dismissing this so here`s an example of the sort of thing I mean.

Say we have 2 people with radically different tastes in music , the chances are the way things are now it would end up in a long drawn out flame war.

Say we had another forum on , for the sake of arguement sports & both these 2 people both supported the same football team & have a discussion about it.

The next time one of them would post in the music forum they`d be less likely to flame each other due to having something other than music in common & the music forums improves as a result of it. You might disagree but i`ve seen it happen in other forums on all sorts of subjects.And not once has it detracted from the main forums that the particular site covers.

i think a big portion Stu may be because for the most part, those of us who are here alot already have discussed our musical tastes or likes and dislikes with each other. Its pretty much all been said before untill a newbie comes in with some new input. Sure the old arguments happen all over again, but not always, and alot of the times the same discussion that happend 6 months ago and is old news to us is new to them so what ends up happening most of the time is these newbs end up getting flamed for starting a new thread on an old subject (old to us, not to them) so alot of ppl just stick to the lounge now where basically anything goes and you dont have to worry about ppl complaining about why such and such band is mentioned in a certain forum. Then again, maybe music is getting stale and were all itching for something new to come out so we can all talk about how much we hate or like this "new" band. Either way, i dont see the lounge as a bad thing, it definetly takes away from the music portion of the site, but I have to agree with the way Urban explains it.

I agree with what you said, but I wasn't saying they shoud post all the time. there are certain new members who don't post in the music forums at all, that's the problem. But I do agree that the lounge kinda draws people to stay. At the same time, I agree with stu, that this is a music forum, which is the whole point.

dead on......

also, urban, if youve seen this work in other forums and you think it will work then i havent got a problem... i think we should try something at least...

you cant say that. new music and new bands are coming out all of the time and some of us (not many- but some) are actually attempting to have conversations and debates on these new artists. yet when either they die on their arse or somebody comes in and starts talking completely off topic it does become frustrating. i would accept what your saying if the spamming was solely in the lounge but its not- theres is A LOT of it in the actual music forums where we try to talk about bands and artists. im sure you wont be too hard pressed to find an example of this.

But I think the thing is nobody is saying this shouldn`t be a music forum.

All i`m saying is if you want to keep people here then have a bit more to offer when they don`t want to talk about music to keep them here.

Personally i`ve not been here much the past couple of months as i`ve been exploring sites about other interests I have, if I was able to post about them here more freely I would have also posted more in the music forums as well due to the fact that this IS a music forum and I would have been here more often than I have , you see what i`m getting at. If you want a wider range of topics & opinions in the music forums you have to keep people in the MusicBanter community when they go through phases of losing interest in music.That way with people staying & posting more, no matter what the subject. you`re more likey to keep people here.

^ i think what urban is suggesting is a good idea because we all go through periods where we lose interest in music etc... so if we can keep a few more valuable members im sure the forums will improve.... in terms of threads that die on their arse, ledzepstu, i think thats just because most of the bands you post about are unheard of and then people arent willing to make the effort of checking them out so noone posts....