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Old 06-02-2015, 04:56 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, I stopped watching that show in the first season, once I was realized how awful it was, so you're gonna have to explain that one.
I watched the whole series start to finish twice and still barely remember much of it. IDK, I remember there being some interesting ideas being brought up but I was a teenager at the time and thought I was a lot smarter than I was. They probably wouldn't seem so interesting now. What reminded me of the show though is the idea of gathering a bunch of misfits in society and putting them on an island together, forcing them to cooperate and battle the seemingly evil mysteries of their new home from which they'll possibly never escape. It's a ****ing great premise imo; all-encompassing.

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Old 06-02-2015, 05:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Your're fucking kidding me right?
I'm pretty sure he is. At least, I hope he is.
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What about hobos trying to escape the island? Will the drones get them, or will they just be caught and tossed back? It would be inhumane to kill them, but it would also serve as an example.





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1. **** the constitution and all those wig wearing bastards that came up with it.
2. i don't care about saving tax payer money... we just have to convince the working class to get on board with the idea. they might resent having to pay for it, but you just have to pitch it to them as a community asset. homeless free cities across the usa! imagine that brother! and plus, working class people love the military. so it's giving our boys something to fight for as well!
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If he somehow manages to make it back to US soil, will he be put back, or will there be an amnesty for some guy who somehow managed to swim a thousand miles?
And given a big cash prize. And a syndicated TV show.Did you ring FOX yet?
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I'll have you know I've been in the same trailer for a good two months
Sorry man, last I heard you were in hotels. Glad to know it's working out a little for ya!
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:09 PM   #53 (permalink)
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i liked lost

never finished it though.... it was weird... i downloaded like thew first 4 seasons and was binge watching it after work, when i worked at this one wharehouse. then when i lost that job i just stopped watching the show. i got maybe 3-4 seasons in before i quit. then never felt the motivation to pick it back up again. but it was a decent show for a cheesy mainstream primetime drama

but yea this scenario would be like a way better version of lost, cause it would feature crackwhores and nutcases

maybe like the hunger games, viewers could send characters a package at their own expense. so while they might not have any drugs on the island initially.. maybe once they get a relatively functional agrarian/hunting society going, someone can send them a package with marijuana seeds, or coca plant seeds, and watch the impact on said society. or conversely... send them the building blocks of some basic technology, like maybe some rudimentary tools to start harvesting and smelting metal. or maybe even some solar panels or something like that. the possibilities are vast.

another interesting scenario would be one my friend brought up... once there is an established society, and we keep sending new homeless recruits to the island, they will basically be homeless people arriving at a newly established society, leaving for the potential of a new homeless problem developing on the island. that would have to be a situation they'd have to manage.

one dynamic that i think would be interesting to watch would be the fact that most perpetual homeless fall into one of 3 categories: physically disabled, mentally disabled, or drug addicts.

for the physically disabled, i think it'd be a bit inhumane to send them to this island, so instead they'll just be given jobs as a bagger or something like that at some grocery store. basically i'd just force companies to put society's physically disabled on their payroll, and leave it up to them to find what job to give them.

so... the island would be just for the mental cases and the druggies. since the island would be drug free... i could easily see the former drug addicts basically being forced into a sober life and then turning into productive members of the new society, probably even very prominent members. at least initially. eventually, they'd start making their own alcohol. then, perhaps part of the society would stick by their new found sobriety, while others deviated and went back to the bottle? or maybe the whole society would just be drunkards?

the mental cases, though.... those would be your real wild cards. it would be interesting to see how the ex druggies deal with the mental cases among them. or whether a band of mental cases might form a unit and break off from the main society to go live in the wilderness with spears and ****. dunno man there are a lot of variables to consider
Being on an island full of spear-wielding nutcases? Screw everything else, I want that. I'll be homeless living in the woods soon enough anyway. Living in a world like Lost would be my dream life. I'd be John Locke's knuckle child of destiny. If a new society formed there I'd go off on my own, though.
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yea, figured something around there based on your post. i know this will sound patronizing and all that but your current ideas about how you'd prefer a life in the woods away from society etc will most likely change with time. you're just too young, stupid, and full of hormonal rage to see the benefit of society atm.



or they might not change, in which case you run the risk of eventually being involuntarily institutionalized.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:07 PM   #57 (permalink)
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yea, figured something around there based on your post. i know this will sound patronizing and all that but your current ideas about how you'd prefer a life in the woods away from society etc will most likely change with time. you're just too young, stupid, and full of hormonal rage to see the benefit of society atm.



or they might not change, in which case you run the risk of eventually being involuntarily institutionalized.
That was the thing though, they took all of the benefits of society and brought them to paradise with almost none of the negative parts. The only thing that ruined their ability to maintain peace was their jealousy and lack of trust in each other. All they had to do was tell them what was really going on, put their egos aside, and listen to each other and they would've gotten along fine. But no one wants to watch a show where everyone gets along. Conflict is entertaining if you can't learn to live without it. I guess it breeds diversity. Everyone's always like 'oh, you do things like this? i do things almost exactly like that except I don't do these things and I do these things instead'. Conflict. Something different. Intrigue.

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I just remember that being the popular opinion at the time. I think the main thing was people felt like there was gonna be a more cathartic ending instead of just fizzling out like it did.

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yea, figured something around there based on your post. i know this will sound patronizing and all that but your current ideas about how you'd prefer a life in the woods away from society etc will most likely change with time. you're just too young, stupid, and full of hormonal rage to see the benefit of society atm.



or they might not change, in which case you run the risk of eventually being involuntarily institutionalized.
Involuntarily institutionalized? Been there several times. No thanks. My thought process is always changing these days but I've been set on living that way for awhile now. It's not for the reasons you'd expect though. I am young and stupid, not denying that, but I'm not primarily doing this because of society. It's more of a personally optimistic outlook I'm adapting to while pursuing a growing relationship with my animal connection through nature. Basically, I'm a ****ing hippy.
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Involuntarily institutionalized? Been there several times. No thanks. My thought process is always changing these days but I've been set on living that way for awhile now. It's not for the reasons you'd expect though. I am young and stupid, not denying that, but I'm not primarily doing this because of society. It's more of a personally optimistic outlook I'm adapting to while pursuing a growing relationship with my animal connection through nature. Basically, I'm a ****ing hippy.
my previous comment still applies... in fact, nothing has changed
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That was the thing though, they took all of the benefits of society and brought them to paradise with almost none of the negative parts. The only thing that ruined their ability to maintain peace was their jealousy and lack of trust in each other. All they had to do was tell them what was really going on, put their egos aside, and listen to each other and they would've gotten along fine. But no one wants to watch a show where everyone gets along. Conflict is entertaining if you can't learn to live without it.

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I just remember that being the popular opinion at the time. I think the main thing was people felt like there was gonna be a more cathartic ending instead of just fizzling out like it did.
i have no idea what you're referring to
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