solution for homeless
 

i mean what we should do is just use tax money to put these people in some sort of institution... depending on the reason they are homeless. some are just crazy and would probably need to stay in the state's custody... others are druggies who need a serious rehab then can maybe be molded back into normal people. but since we all know that's not gonna happen, since homeless people don't vote or pay taxes, and working people are all like "i work for my money, **** giving them a free ride" so who the **** is gonna find the political will for that?

then a reasonable compromise/alternative, that would solve the homeless problem in cities while still satiating the fake 'personal responsibility' morality of the working class, is to just send all these people to some deserted island with no contact with humanity and no way to return.

think about it. homeless people are pretty resourceful when it comes to basic survival. and on a remote island they'd most likely have no choice but to abandon their drug of choice. so really this could be the perfect solution to the homeless problem in virtually every way imaginable.

thoughts?

They're homeless, not a problem. Unless they're causing problems. And most of them don't. Just leave em alone, spare what you can if you want. Or, you could actually talk to them. Wouldn't that be something.

dunno how the homeless are where you're from

where i'm from they wander around begging and scamming for money, usually till they get enough to score another hit, and then back to square 1

so yea that can be a problem imo

stop trynna ruin my brilliant idea with your hippy bull****

So what? They're drug users. I mean, scamming's kinda lame depending on the target but sometimes it's just like I'ma scam some yuppies because **** the system goddammit. IDK, I feel like as long as you only take from the worst and protect your own you're okay.

lol. well i guess every man has gotta have a code.

your code says imma just scam some yuppies and score some smack

my code says imma just round up some homeless and send them to an island, and periodically check in on their new found civilization with surveillance drones

I see you're doing this trolly devil's advocate thing again.

And if I were to do the same, I would agree. Shipping homeless, criminals and others who might tax a country in various ways to islands can be a really good strategy. It comes with moral and humanitarian costs, but ignoring that, the principle is sound.

There are a few practical problems, though. First, technology has made people very mobile. If they don't like the island, they will probably move away. If not by the technology available on the island, then by the help of others in the world outside it. If they don't come back to the society they got exiled from, they would simply migrate to another country and become that country's problem. So, politically it's difficult. You could keep them in a camp or something, but then it's basically just a far off prison.

When England did this and shipped people to Australia, the world was a larger place and they didn't have to worry about international politics so much. Today the world is different. Just executing people might be easier?

Make them fight for food in arena death matches.

Sporting events make big bucks, fast food companies could get advertising by providing the food, and I'd finally get my chance at seeing a Roman-style gladiator match... but with chainsaws.

This man gets it! Now go ring FOX.... :laughing:

Seriously JWB, wtf?? We have homeless people here (as I'm sure you do too) who are only homeless because they lost their jobs and could not afford to keep their houses. That's not their fault. You suggesting they should be institutionalised for that? What about our Mondo? He's homeless, living from hotel to hotel. You think he should be put away somewhere that his homeless disease can no longer hurt us?

You say some insensitive things man, but this is the limit. Are you actually serious or just trolling, cos if the former we have one big hell of a problem son.

Yes.

So you want to lock them up? Right? Institution is lock up, not that you would know you have never been locked up. But that's what that means.

See there are no laws against being homeless because in the Usa, you can be homeless if you want to. Don't give them money they aren't a problem for you that way.

I have been homeless before, a couple times, and it was because of poor choices, if the state stepped in, I'd still be homeless, just in state custody until they saw fit to release me. Once they let me out tho, still homeless.
Without state help, not homeless anymore, and won't be ever again. Lessons learned.

I've been homeless. Twice. The first time was me running away from problems, but I managed to make it into the Army. The second time, I had lost my job, so I had no money, kicked out of my apartment, parents wouldn't have me, no relatives within 1000 miles, and was living in abandoned places for quite a while until I went into a halfway house, got my **** together, and built my life from the ground up. I got my foot in the door for a good job, worked my ass off, learned everything I could about my chosen profession, got promoted, and scraped and crawled my way up the ladder. Now, I run a company, have had a roof over my head ever since, where I raised my daughter, and am a contributing member of society where my job is directly related to saving lives every day.

Ship the homeless off to an island... what ****ing joke. I'm not even sure why I responded to this obvious attempt at trolling. I guess you win.

Waiting for LiL to suggest we should just spray them all with uzis if they dare attempt to shoplift a sandwich.

Right back at you Plank.

It's easy for people to drive by someone on the corner and surmise why they are homeless and see them as the scourge of the community it's harder to look at what reasons they are homeless, and harder still to love someone through it.

:drummer:

Your're fucking kidding me right?

We already have bum fights..

Yeah but nobody died in Bum Fights. The old hobo getting sucked off by that fugtastic crack whore was pretty awesome though.

Nah, the version of Cribs was the best part about bum fights. You can't top that all gold shopping cart.

@ 2:24

How you gonna diss the Bum Hunter?





Oh my god, I forgot how evil that **** was.

Ugh, yeah. One of the youtube comments made me feel a little better.

"the guy was arrested for doing a video like this"

I hope that's correct.

wah wah wah

i've been homeless before too

i'm talking about the perpetually homeless. the druggies and mental cases you see roaming around every city. not just anyone who doesn't have a home. the people who for whatever reason, can't seem to find a functional role in society. there's no point in leaving em to try to live off scraps and scams. might as well send them to an island and see what they come up with. it would be interesting to see how they fare in a new land. i'm saying somewhere fertile where they have the prospect of farming, hunting and all that. i'd wager that they'd end up with a better life than they had on the fringes of our society cause a) their drugs wouldn't be available and b) they wouldn't have to contend with already existing rules of society, leaving them free to pursue their survival in a more direct sense.

i hear what you are saying tore, about them gaining mobility. i was thinking about this last night and honestly, it would have to be an island that was blockaded by the navy to prevent any other humans like some whateverdude type greenpeace activist boat from going there. so what we could do is have a ship a few miles off shore that acts as a base for aerial drones that survey the island and the ocean around it, and predator drones that launch missiles at any foreign vessel that breaches the designated boundaries

so yea it will take a lot of work and due diligence, but i do believe we could theoretically give these homeless folk the island paradise that they deserve

That's so crazy it might work.

You're a genius.

alright roxy, so what would you do with someone who is mentally insane?

like when i was in atlanta there was a guy walking down the middle of the street at night in downtown atlanta screaming to himself some jibberish about michael jackson. and according to the locals he wasn't even on anything he was just a nutcase. what do you do with that guy, roxy?

edit - also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeles...f_homelessness

What about hobos trying to escape the island? Will the drones get them, or will they just be caught and tossed back? It would be inhumane to kill them, but it would also serve as an example.

Dude, WTF?

I think there might be some constitutional amendments preventing the government from rounding up a people who haven't, as far as the law knows, committed crimes.

Beyond that, seeing as how this is sort of an idea to save taxpayer's money, don't you think it would be a good idea to avoid involving the military?

there would be mini predator drones to deal with homeless flotillas. they would sabotage the flotillas, leaving the homeless with a life preserver to paddle back to shore.

But just think about how much the property values in previously bum-ridden sections of our cities will go up. It could end the recession.

What if the bum decided to use the life preserver to swim back to the mainland?

1. **** the constitution and all those wig wearing bastards that came up with it.
2. i don't care about saving tax payer money... we just have to convince the working class to get on board with the idea. they might resent having to pay for it, but you just have to pitch it to them as a community asset. homeless free cities across the usa! imagine that brother! and plus, working class people love the military. so it's giving our boys something to fight for as well!

i'm talking an island in the middle of the ****ing pacific bro. so best of luck to him :laughing:

I'd become homeless when I retire just for the benefits.

If he somehow manages to make it back to US soil, will he be put back, or will there be an amnesty for some guy who somehow managed to swim a thousand miles?

^Worth discussing you don't want these people staying here because of some loophole.

I say anyone with that kind of determination deserves to be put in charge of something. His ordeal will probably have destroyed what remained of his mind, but we can give him something that he can't **** up and set him up with a decent salary.

why not just go full modest proposal and eat homeless children?

yea, if you get back with a floatie then you won your ticket back into society. but if you become permanently homeless/hopeless again you're just gonna get rounded up again and sent back to the island

That's disgusting. Homeless meat probably tastes terrible.

nah, i bet it's pretty lean.