I Want To Talk About The Touchy Subject Of Race
 

Simple Question:

Are You Racist?

Simple Answer: No.

Race isn't really a "touchy subject" around here. We talk about it all the time, usually right before the weekly bestiality and necrophilia conversations.

sir your beard indicates to me that you are part of isis

confirm/deny?

"The touchy subject of race": well, explain yourself. Do you mean a bike race? A motor race? Horse race? I agree, those horseracing bastards really think they rule the world don't they? Snail race for me all the way...!
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...snail_race.jpg

What's in the video? (Can't see it at work.)
A cute black kid accusingly pointing at the viewer for ten minutes?

So much worse than that. I couldn't sit through the whole thing.

Same here. I think it was supposed to be funny.

The video is blocked in Germany.
Perhaps it's for the better.

1 being not racist at all and
10 being extremely racist

I think I'm about a 4.

I'm white. My favorite type of people are Far Eastern Asians. My least favorite people are black and Middle Eastern. I still take people individually on a one on one basis and I'm happy to be friends with, work with, or have romantic encounters with, people of any ethnic origin. But like if I was given a choice between living in Japan or Nigeria I would choose Japan. I consider it healthy and natural to have preferences. Preferring one race over another to me is racist. So, yeah, I'm racist. I don't hate any racial groups but I like some better than others.

That seems more like taste preferences.^

White power.

Chosing a place to live seems to be more about culture and standard of living than about race.

Well Soulflower said I'm racist so I must definitely be without a doubt

Along with everyone else here

So I can't make any conclusions about people based on what kind of culture and standard of living they've created for themselves?

If you choose to believe that race is the most important determining factor and not historical and environmental reasons, you sure can.
We once had this discussion, so I think that you do indeed believe that.
I for one simply don't know. There is no real scientific evidence either way. My personal experience is, that race determines jack ****, so I usually go by that.

I don't know either. I remember the discussion and I think all I said was that as far as I'm concerned different races might have different proclivities concerning certain intellectual and physical pursuits. I don't remember everything I wrote but I think that was about the size of it.


Seemingly small things like being the first civilization to can food, for example, had huge consequences historically. That's just a right place right time kind of thing.

But it annoys me that it's become heresy for the scientific community to even study the matter.

I also remember getting trolled with the moronic assumption that if I were well read I would know that race doesn't even exist.

It is being studied, although not particularly widely and yeah, some people do get upset about it quite a bit.
On one hand I think science shouldn't be stopped by PC issues, on the other hand such studies would have little practical application, but huge potential for being misunderstood and misused. It's a difficult topic.

Myself included.

I'm not racist in the slightest. I feel people vastly confuse racism and stereotyping though. If I get cut off by a mini van near me, I'm more inclined to believe that either the person behind the wheel is either Asian or Indian. Why? Because it's generally true where I live. That's just observation. However, if I felt that all Indian and Asian people should have their licenses taken away, that'd be racist.

I define racism as treating somebody different, usually negatively, JUST because of their race. Association, while still a bit socially unacceptable, isn't racist. It just isn't.

Let me ask you this (I've brought it up before on here). When you are telling a story to your friends about someone who isn't white do you always feel the need to point out their race? I feel this is a kind of sub-conscious racism that a lot people do, and it's not even offensive.

Some random white person: "and my friend Jimmy, this black guy, yada yada yada" -- I know a TON of people who do this, and when I've called them out on it they just look confused. Unless race is relevant to the story why do people feel the need to point it out?

Same here. Not your particular example, but the crux of your post rings true for me also.

nonsense.

Emojis come with skin tones. Racism.

I try not to but it happens. Mostly when the fact that he's black makes the story better. My ex boss is black and if I'm telling a story about his reaction I'll mention his race because face it, black people are funnier than white people.

Elaborate.

Well articulated.

I hate how talking heads/political figures/etc. are always shouting about how we need to "have an honest talk about racism; we have to talk honestly about race, race race race" til they're blue in the face, but every time an actual dialogue starts, in pop all the PC hall monitors to make sure everything goes according to a preapproved script. Everyone ends up shouting over each other indignantly but nobody really says anything. Because they've been conditioned not to...

This video says it all to me... Although certainly a few monsters have been offended by it

Not Isil, but, yeah - it's grown quite a bit. I want to get it to ZZ Top status. Not really a ZZ Top fan but I like letting my beard grow.

You're right. people don't even realize it's racist, but it is.

I'm racist, but not in a bad way. I just feel you can learn a lot about people through race. I'm not afraid of the subject. I don't feel it's ever beneficial to a person to be afraid or sensitive about anything. Sure, you can use diplomacy and discretion when need be, but if you're a good person and genuinely try hard to do the right, then why should you be afraid of or sensitive to anything? Don't let somebody else's negativite feelings create negative feelings in you - you're doing yourself a great disservice if you do so. It's called being insecure, and that's not good.

I feel that focusing on race too much though, whether it be not hiring someone or not selling them a house because you don't want those people in your work place or neighborhood, or wanting to meet the criteria of what you feel is racial balance in the work place or college is also racism (affirmative action) - those people you select are called tokens. And that also is not a good thing.

Picture a random person in your head RIGHT NOW. Is that person white? Are they male? People tend to think of themselves when they picture the baseline human, so when they're talking about someone not of their race -- especially when they're with other people of their own race, who also think of random people as being their own race and sex -- then they subconsciously feel the need to clarify for the sake of storytelling.

I just tried your test and this chick I want to bang came into my head. She is white though so your half right.

Also, I've never felt that way which is probably why I noticed it to begin with.

well.. i think your definition of racism is basically inaccurate

you are only including one part of racism in your definition, which is actively seeking to undermine the rights of another race

racism can be strictly ideological

and it can be strictly based on stereotyping

imo anyway... based on the way the word is actually defined.

so you need not be hostile towards the other race to be racist. or even treat them differently. you only need to believe that they have some inferior quality to your own race, such as if you think asians are inherently bad drivers... that's by definition a racist belief regardless of how you treat them

to be fair i'll say that you are right though that just guessing that using statistics to guess the race of a person isn't necessarily racist

but i just disagreed with what you said about how you actually define racism

dunno why i was so antagonistic about it though... i honestly barely remember making that post

so my apologies in that regard

I can see what you're saying. I will however say that what I was talking about is a harmless observation. I'd say that it can be directly related to where they live in the example I was talking about. Have you ever seen videos of traffic in Asia? India and China have some of the most dangerous driving conditions on the planet besides Russia. It's the wild west out there. I think they're regarded as bad drivers because they brought those driving habits over. I'd call that geographical observation at the most.

I'm really stretching that example out but that's how I honestly see it. I like people. I could care less what they look like. I just see patterns and race can sometimes fall into those patterns.

White power.

You already said this two pages back.

WHITE POWDER!!! :mad:

Nothing wrong with white power.

Nah, Asians can't drive cause they have no peripheral vision.

@ exo

yea... that's why i said at the end that you can make that statistical observation without being necessarily racist

you cross over into racism i think if you believe that the statistic is based on some inherently deficient quality of that race

rather than just a cultural trend or whatever

i dunno man i guess the line is pretty vague tbh. maybe the actual term racism is just loaded with emotional/ideological baggage that makes it hard to objectively define

I think this is the case.

Black powek?

i would say though that while i understand the desire not to be racist.. and i think it's a good quality to have in the 21st century... part of me thinks that racism is just sort of built into human psychology through tribal instinct

and that really progressives like yourself who "aren't racist" are simply more skilled at/more determined in the suppression of racist instincts, rather than the idea that you are actually not at all racist

not that i can prove that or that i say it as a fact but that's my best guess atm