Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1759096)

Just had a blast improvising over a 1blankmind track!

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1759083)

While I speak from the other side, it's a pretty ****ty thing to do, especially if you knew he was with her. Though, it also falls onto her for not stopping you from doing what you did, so both are at fault. Which does lead back to my point that the responsibility should be on both parties.

Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1759100)

i am Seriously leaning to that being the first track I release for the album. It was just awesome.

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1759083)

While I speak from the other side, it's a pretty ****ty thing to do, especially if you knew he was with her. Though, it also falls onto her for not stopping you from doing what you did, so both are at fault. Which does lead back to my point that the responsibility should be on both parties.

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1759103)

Anytime bud. Gives an old man something to do with his day. :laughing:

Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1759102)

Yeah and I know instinctively it's an awful thing to do. I've been able to convince (or delude) myself that because this wasn't a case of lusting after "forbidden fruit" but very much progression in our relationship, that we are, at least in some ways, absolved. You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette or something. Even as I type that it seems wrong, but I still feel little guilt - save for the almost paradoxical "why don't I feel worse" gut check.

This situation also has not been resolved yet, and I have literally no idea what's going to happen. I think id feel worse if they don't break up (as of now they are still together), because that would tell me it didn't mean anything to begin with.

Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1759104)

I have to disagree ki. It's not Ninetales fault. I believe that it only falls onto the arms of the cheater in Ninetales case. Maybe this is me justifying my past actions, but that's how I feel.

Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1759102)

Yeah and I know instinctively it's an awful thing to do. I've been able to convince (or delude) myself that because this wasn't a case of lusting after "forbidden fruit" but very much progression in our relationship, that we are, at least in some ways, absolved. You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette or something. Even as I type that it seems wrong, but I still feel little guilt - save for the almost paradoxical "why don't I feel worse" gut check.

This situation also has not been resolved yet, and I have literally no idea what's going to happen. I think id feel worse if they don't break up (as of now they are still together), because that would tell me it didn't mean anything to begin with.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1759113)

I think the old saying, "all's fair in love and war" is true. Life is so ****ing hard, and so full of misery, that finding any joy, especially true, important joy, is worth far more than just "the bro code" or whatever. If this girl means something to you, and you mean something to her, then even if the situation is not ideal, you can't just say, "well this is morally dubious so I'm just not gonna pursue it cause it would be mean."

If this girl is important to you then you should clamp on like an oyster and **** everybody else.

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1759110)

I suppose I'm lucky that it happened the way it did to me then so that I'm not stuck in the middle. I'm not shaming anybody for anybody as I've done my fair share, but that's just my insight that I don't feel it's a one sided issue when it comes to cheating.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1759113)

I think the old saying, "all's fair in love and war" is true. Life is so ****ing hard, and so full of misery, that finding any joy, especially true, important joy, is worth far more than just "the bro code" or whatever. If this girl means something to you, and you mean something to her, then even if the situation is not ideal, you can't just say, "well this is morally dubious so I'm just not gonna pursue it cause it would be mean."

If this girl is important to you then you should clamp on like an oyster and **** everybody else.

Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1759137)

Oh yeah for sure, and I know that if I was in the other guy's or your position id be devastated and rightfully pissed. I don't think this whole thing has really sunk in yet either. Its been a whirlwind couple weeks; I might have a better understanding of where my heads really at when this all gets closer to resolution.



I agree with you overall I think, but there are a few wrinkles in my situation that muddy the waters a bit. She absolutely means a lot to me, whether as just a friend or more, but I can see the logic behind this not working out for us. One major point is shes got 3 kids, one of which she had with her current bf and I mean im just some dumb guy with little knowledge in that department who still goes on drunk benders. So I mean this wouldn't be a small commitment, especially for someone like me whos uh not the best at relationships. Ive talked myself through being down for this, but certainly from her view this might not look ideal.

Ive got the feeling that shes either decided to stick it out with her bf and not tell me, or hasn't decided yet and is leaving both doors a bit open (though we have stopped sleeping together for the time being). Either way, as much as I would like something good to come from this, Im not willing to just wait around indefinitely for her to make up her mind.