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Plankton · 01-31-2018, 10:16 AM

Que the Barbara Streisand.

The Batlord · 01-31-2018, 10:24 AM

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I'd have to ask then how teachers get their jobs? Are there not any kind of conditions, any exams they have to pass? This is ridiculous; these are the people training the minds of those who may end up running the country at some stage? When I went to hedge school, at least the wizards and monks all knew their stuff. It's disgraceful to say that teachers - surely, in terms of knowledge, the most relied (or expected to be able to be relied) upon other than doctors and lawyers - are so badly trained and so ill-informed. Batty, your story about the Lieutenant is a glaring example, and exactly as you say: even if you don't know the name, how could someone with so low a rank be a supreme commander? It's not like they were like that guy in World War II, Sergeant Montgomery.

These are teacher salaries in America by state (convert from dollars obviously). This is why nobody with half a brain wants to waste their mountain of student debt teaching to kids who don't care.

Teacher Salaries By State | Average Salaries For Teachers | Beginning Salaries For Teachers | Teacher Raises | TeacherPortal.com

OccultHawk · 01-31-2018, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

These are teacher salaries in America by state (convert from dollars obviously). This is why nobody with half a brain wants to waste their mountain of student debt teaching to kids who don't care.

Teacher Salaries By State | Average Salaries For Teachers | Beginning Salaries For Teachers | Teacher Raises | TeacherPortal.com

This is anectdotal but I don’t think salary or workload actually drives many people from the profession. It’s the absolutely psychologically torturous conditions inside the classrooms that’s the killer. “Stay in School” and “Dropout Prevention” go pretty much unquestioned. But it only takes about a month before every teacher realizes that about 5% of the kids make everyone else completely miserable. When it turns out this 5% is black they’re not getting in trouble for bullying and disruption, oh no, it’s racism. Yep, it turns out that thousands of teachers have intentionally ruined their own lives to write discipline reports on one in twenty black kids. All through college these future teachers were plotting it. When I get in the classroom one out of every twenty black kids is going down.

Trollheart · 01-31-2018, 10:47 AM

Yeah but why would you want to be a teacher if you can't teach properly? Do something else. It's like back in Victorian London, where most teachers were actually illiterate (as comes through particularly in Dickens's writings - I recall one (dramatised) scene from I think Nicholas Nickelby (but I can't be sure) where the "teacher" is spelling window for the kids and writes W-I-N-D-E-R on the board. "Winder," he says: spell it as it sounds. Good god). According to what I've read, much of the teaching population was just men there to babysit kids while their mothers were off working, and all they knew to do was deal out punishment. Nobody learned anything.

The Batlord · 01-31-2018, 11:23 AM

Teachers are basically still babysitters now. I've heard plenty of teachers say they're not when their students are being ****heads, but shut up, bitch, why do you think school is in session when the parents are at work?

OccultHawk · 01-31-2018, 11:42 AM

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Teachers are basically still babysitters now. I've heard plenty of teachers say they're not when their students are being ****heads, but shut up, bitch, why do you think school is in session when the parents are at work?

Yeah. There’s a lot of denial among teachers about what is actually going on. It’s ****ing free daycare for sure. And the most ****ed up kids never miss a day because their mothers aren’t going to miss getting him out of the house. I’ve called home and had mothers encourage me to call their JPO’s. And I’m quoting this close to verbatim from their mothers, “You need to call his parole. Get that little n——- back in jail.”

Trollheart · 01-31-2018, 11:52 AM

Well no offence but if this is the state your education system is in, no wonder there's so much trouble over there. Mind you, it could be as bad here: I can only talk from when I was in school (circa 1903) and the worst that happened to teachers was a lack of respect, things (chalk, paper darts, spitballs) thrown at them, but it never got what I would have called out of hand. The teachers always did their best to teach, even in the face of adversity and apathy, and some even offered to help students after school who were having difficulty with a subject. All I know is, I listened, I learned, and I definitely benefitted from school. Even if I did hate maths.

OccultHawk · 01-31-2018, 12:05 PM

I was in some unusually difficult situations. Things that seem universal to me aren’t but after a while it starts to seem like all you see is all there is. At least, with me it does.

Chula Vista · 01-31-2018, 03:32 PM

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Teacher Salaries By State | Average Salaries For Teachers | Beginning Salaries For Teachers | Teacher Raises | TeacherPortal.com

Top 5: All 5 voted Democrat in 2016

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New York
Massachusetts
Connecticut
California
New Jersey

Bottom 5: All but New Mexico voted GOP

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South Dakota
Mississippi
Oklahoma
New Mexico
West Virginia

**Frownland** · 01-31-2018, 03:44 PM

*masturbates*

01-31-2018, 10:16 AM	#47981 (permalink)
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01-31-2018, 10:47 AM	#47984 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Yeah but why would you want to be a teacher if you can't teach properly? Do something else. It's like back in Victorian London, where most teachers were actually illiterate (as comes through particularly in Dickens's writings - I recall one (dramatised) scene from I think Nicholas Nickelby (but I can't be sure) where the "teacher" is spelling window for the kids and writes W-I-N-D-E-R on the board. "Winder," he says: spell it as it sounds. Good god). According to what I've read, much of the teaching population was just men there to babysit kids while their mothers were off working, and all they knew to do was deal out punishment. Nobody learned anything. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-31-2018, 11:52 AM	#47987 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Well no offence but if this is the state your education system is in, no wonder there's so much trouble over there. Mind you, it could be as bad here: I can only talk from when I was in school (circa 1903) and the worst that happened to teachers was a lack of respect, things (chalk, paper darts, spitballs) thrown at them, but it never got what I would have called out of hand. The teachers always did their best to teach, even in the face of adversity and apathy, and some even offered to help students after school who were having difficulty with a subject. All I know is, I listened, I learned, and I definitely benefitted from school. Even if I did hate maths. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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