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OccultHawk 10-30-2020 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2141823)
Care to elaborate?

Black people bash back with the most frightening force so white people justify their acquiescence to their verbal demands by pretending they’re more vulnerable to the pain inflicted by hate speech than other and even far weaker minority groups. The acceptable narrative is never going to be the simple truth that whites are just simply afraid of blacks. It’s that their experience demands special consideration as if homosexuals have it relatively easy and aren’t in fact just an easier target.

OccultHawk 10-30-2020 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2141813)
D*ke has never had the same impact as f**got, and yes, plenty of people identify as d*kes (butch or otherwise), but you'll be hard pressed to find many gay men who identify as "f**got". And even if some do or use it themselves in other contexts, this is their choice to make, and much like with the n-word, people who are not gay men do not (or should not) get to make that choice.

And ftr the word d yke is brutal af where I live. I’m not in the Bay Area. Being a lesbian here is a one way ticket to permanent second class status for life here. Lesbians are ostracized socially and professionally. They’re not invited to book clubs, they’re shunned at church and they have no outlet to build social networks. As a result they don’t get hired, they don’t get promoted and poverty is weaponized against them. Poor women are more likely to be assaulted and raped and even murdered. So it’s not like a particularly gentle slur. At least not here in Jesusland.

Marie Monday 10-30-2020 03:03 AM

Of course it depends on context. Identifying as something doesn't necessarily mean the word is harmless though. I identify as a d*ke (the word makes me go 'yay that's me!') but where I come from it's malicious enough that I'd frown if just anyone used it (the Dutch equivalent to the word d*ke is 'pot' btw, it is very similar in use and offensiveness). Also adi has a point that ***got seems to be universally much worse than d*ke.

Marie Monday 10-30-2020 03:13 AM

Sure. I had the stigma of 'd*ke' hanging over me before I even knew I was gay
To me personally that aspect of homophobic slurs is worse than the actual homophobia. But that's because I've suffered much more from not conforming to gender norms than I have from being gay.

Plankton 10-30-2020 07:45 AM

People thought you were a large mass holding back water? People are dum dums.

SGR 10-30-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2141808)
Also I went to community college for 9 years lol and I havent even finished my prereqs

For real? How did that happen? You change majors?

jwb 10-30-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2141824)
Black people bash back with the most frightening force so white people justify their acquiescence to their verbal demands by pretending they’re more vulnerable to the pain inflicted by hate speech than other and even far weaker minority groups. The acceptable narrative is never going to be the simple truth that whites are just simply afraid of blacks. It’s that their experience demands special consideration as if homosexuals have it relatively easy and aren’t in fact just an easier target.

There's some truth to this being afraid of getting a good thrashing

But I also legitimately think the n word is far worse. The historical baggage associated is just more severe. And I would say the same thing for the k slur with Jews. And nobody is scared of getting beat up by a Jew.

Also, for black men who are apt to assault you for calling them the n word, there's a huge number of them who would similarly assault you for calling them the f word. So the idea that's the safe insult to use in that context isn't even true.

Also if he's saying gay men can choose when to say the f word then why the **** can't I? You don't think that word applies to me?

OccultHawk 10-30-2020 09:38 AM

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And I would say the same thing for the k slur with Jews. And nobody is scared of getting beat up by a Jew.
That’s a good point but on the other hand the ADL don’t play and money fights for you.

Plankton 10-30-2020 09:46 AM

Lior Goldstein would like a word with you two.

jwb 10-30-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2141894)
That’s a good point but on the other hand the ADL don’t play and money fights for you.

that only counts if you are a media personality or something they can go after

If you're a commoner and you call some random Jew the k slur the ADL isn't gonna do ****.

If you're a Congress woman who questions the lobbying support for Israel, on the other hand...


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