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Old 10-30-2020, 10:34 AM   #70651 (permalink)
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If you're a Congress woman who questions the lobbying support for Israel, on the other hand...
I've got serious respect for Omar for doing that. She's got bigger balls than the GOP.
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:36 AM   #70652 (permalink)
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Also if he's saying gay men can choose when to say the f word then why the **** can't I? You don't think that word applies to me?
We're talking about reappropriating the word bro, not slinging it as an insult. :/
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:38 AM   #70653 (permalink)
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that only counts if you are a media personality or something they can go after

If you're a commoner and you call some random Jew the k slur the ADL isn't gonna do ****.

If you're a Congress woman who questions the lobbying support for Israel, on the other hand...
Commoners tend to fall in line.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:08 AM   #70654 (permalink)
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IMO anybody can say what ever the **** they want and nobody gets to choose how you behave.

I don't think being the member of the group you're using a slur for makes you exempt from the consequences of the word.

With in context the word can be just as harmful from another person of the group as it is from an outsider.

Even in a better context not everybody is going to understand you're joking and I personally would rather not risk accidentally making somebody feel unwelcome based on something arbitrary like their race or sexuality. Even tolerant people can be bothered by it behind closed doors. The moment nobody has to question if I am low key a bigot I'll think about using slurs more freely.

I really don't think ranking slurs by levels of offensiveness makes sense. They are all meant to make somebody else feel like they are lesser than you for their race, gender or sexuality. The amount of history behind the N word compared to the F word isn't going to make a gay person feel better about being called it. Imagine that conversation. Explaining to a gay person they shouldn't be offended by being called a F because the history behind the word isn't as heavy as the N bomb.

I also am not one to lecture somebody on their decision to use these words. Completely your choice. Nobody gets to tell you what words you can and can't use just like nobody gets to tell you what you can and can't be offended by.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:08 AM   #70655 (permalink)
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Not cause we're scared of the ADL though

It's just the history of antisemitism is vast and potent. There are plenty of commoners who don't care about history and use the n word and the k slur liberally. And then there's less extreme versions where people just don't take antisemitism that seriously for ideological reasons. Like my ex is a Muslim and she's a leftist and very secular but her hate for Israel and Zionism is so severe she says there isn't even a problem in our society with antisemitism.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:11 AM   #70656 (permalink)
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Not ranking slurs makes no sense really. Some are worse than others. You really have the same reaction to someone dropping the n bomb as someone calling you a retard?
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Speaking of, did you guys know that the "peace" deal Trump & Obombem & Clinton worked on is forcing Palestinians to live on nuclear waste lands?
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Not ranking slurs makes no sense really. Some are worse than others. You really have the same reaction to someone dropping the n bomb as someone calling you a retard?
I'm more offended by somebody calling me a retard, personally.
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You know what I mean though.
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You know what I mean though.
Yeah, what's generally acceptable in society, what packs a bigger punch, but my point is that's not going to matter to the mentally handicapped person who is being oppressed by it.
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