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WWWP · 06-20-2020, 05:10 PM

Looks like I left the conversation at the right time.

Don't engage with brick walls folks, it's bad for your blood pressure.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Your point about Peeves actually makes me realize that I don't think he even showed up past the 4th book or movie. Weird.

I've only reread the first two so far so I can't recall him in later books but he wasn't in any of the movies at all.

They also left out Hermoine's elf liberation movement.

And I think they left out Percy too. And the time Harry caught Snape masturbating.

The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie

Again, slippery slope. Calling him a holocaust denier is unfair.

It is not. He is not trying to deny that any holocaust ever occurred because that would be absurd. What he is doing is trying to mitigate responsibility for a holocaust so that the status quo is not implicated. If he were trying to do this with the actual Holocaust he would already be banned for life but we never lost a world war so it isn't as touchy a subject.

I understand that you probably don't get this as a European but as an American this kind of thing is very real and insidious to this day and has been used to shelve our responsibility for the Native American genocide for our entire history. What Ant is doing is not innocent or honest.

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But about what you say, I admit I was trying to avoid discussing this because I'm getting tired but here we go:
Bat, if you suspect Ant is baiting you, then don't take the bait

Would you say this if he were denying the actual Holocaust? Just don't take the bait and let the neo-Nazi spread filth for the sake of keeping discussion friendly?

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Ant, looking at the repeated history of these discussions I do find it hard to believe that you don't know were things are going and that there's not an element of trolling to it, and the discussion itself sounded more trollish than the recap you gave. But I realise that that might just be the same thing as you finding it hard to believe that people get offended.

Again, he knows what he's doing. He's dancing around hate speech. Imagine if there were an actual Native American member of the board. Shut him down.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

Looks like I left the conversation at the right time.

Don't engage with brick walls folks, it's bad for your blood pressure.

Unless you know the right bricks to tap. Then you go to the magically hidden ally way with the only wand shop in the entire world.

Luckily no muggle has ever entered that small bar for some reason.

OccultHawk · 06-20-2020, 05:18 PM

Here’s the European version of the Aztec argument: If Hitler hadn’t killed those Jews Stalin would have.

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It is not. He is not trying to deny that any holocaust ever occurred because that would be absurd. What he is doing is trying to mitigate responsibility for a holocaust so that the status quo is not implicated. If he were trying to do this with the actual Holocaust he would already be banned for life but we never lost a world war so it isn't as touchy a subject.

I understand that you probably don't get this as a European but as an American this kind of thing is very real and insidious to this day and has been used to shelve our responsibility for the Native American genocide for our entire history. What Ant is doing is not innocent or honest.

America is responsible for killing millions of Native Americans over the past several centuries in various ways, and the fact that smallpox continued to spread well into the 18th century and beyond was due to that as well. Is that thorough enough for you, Mr. Nazi-fetishist?

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Here’s the European version of the Aztec argument: If Hitler hadn’t killed those Jews Stalin would have.

Well, Aztec argument only changes one variable - the absence of Europeans coming to North America.

**Marie Monday** · 06-20-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It is not. He is not trying to deny that any holocaust ever occurred because that would be absurd. What he is doing is trying to mitigate responsibility for a holocaust so that the status quo is not implicated. If he were trying to do this with the actual Holocaust he would already be banned for life but we never lost a world war so it isn't as touchy a subject.

I understand that you probably don't get this as a European but as an American this kind of thing is very real and insidious to this day and has been used to shelve our responsibility for the Native American genocide for our entire history. What Ant is doing is not innocent or honest.

Would you say this if he were denying the actual Holocaust? Just don't take the bait and let the neo-Nazi spread filth for the sake of keeping discussion friendly?

Again, he knows what he's doing. He's dancing around hate speech. Imagine if there were an actual Native American member of the board. Shut him down.

He is certainly not denying a genocide and hardly migitating responsibility. It's true that I might be naive about this as a European, but keep in mind that you have the opposite problem as an American: you might have heard so much of the actual genocide denial **** that it triggers a response.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Unless you know the right bricks to tap. Then you go to the magically hidden ally way with the only wand shop in the entire world.

Luckily no muggle has ever entered that small bar for some reason.

OccultHawk · 06-20-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

America is responsible for killing millions of Native Americans over the past several centuries in various ways, and the fact that smallpox continued to spread well into the 18th century and beyond was due to that as well. Is that thorough enough for you, Mr. Nazi-fetishist?

Anne Frank was going to die of natural causes anyway.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Things already said.

How come there are no pregnant witches in Hogwarts? I'm supposed to believe that a bunch of horny teenagers stuck together in a school are not ****ing? They're creating hate groups but not accidental babies? Has a wizard ever brought a gun to school? I mean, I get Hogwarts being filled with cockney ****s they don't have guns but perhaps the American wizard school? Has there ever been a mass wanding?

**Marie Monday** · 06-20-2020, 05:24 PM

Guys come on, let's just **** on Harry Potter

Edit: 'mass wanding' sounds like a quirky name for an orgy

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