Sounds more like an Italian mine.

You've said you don't get into it because of the misogyny etc. Then you just tried to associate it with Nazis and incels. Then you always go on about "hip hop only white guys" but your taste in hip hop is white af lol. I like Earl sweatshirt and Danny brown but you're just naming typical rappers that white people who don't like hip hop will listen to. Just like eminem was the one good rapper two every rap hater 15 years ago.

Here's a news flash: hip hop is popular in general. Its probably the most influential and popular form of modern american made music.

..I was honestly wondering if you were citing it cause it was sampled but I couldn't spot it when I listened back. You have a good ear.

And ftr I do listen to more than just hip hop but hip hop is my favorite genre and it's what I grew up on.

I had my post punk/kraut rock phase when I was 19. Yes I used to love the fall and can. Still like them but don't listen much anymore.

I also love certain jazz music. Some of it I find boring or formulaic and some is too avant garde. But I love **** like coltrane ole up through a love supreme and some of his later stuff.

I'm just more passive about music than I was when I was young. I listen to **** I like but can't be bothered reading and posting about it all the time. I used to do that when I was young though.

JWB dropping truth bombs like it's Hiroshima. Shieeeetttt.

I'd argue that vaporwave and synthwave are getting up there with hip-hop in regards to overall cultural influence, but it has been a slow climb.

I wanna figure this out. Was it Sage? Or something similar? Idk that Sage is underground, though I wish he'd be #killsagefrancisidontlikehim

How it started: Lo-Fi Hip-Hop Beats to Study or Chill To
How it's going: Oldies Playing in Another Room and It's Raining [NO Thunder]

Preciate it

Idk about popular influence and when I say idk I mean I’m not disagreeing I really dk.

I think JWB is right in the sense that most popular music that’s like “pop” even though hip hop isn’t the popular culture tour de force it used to be the soundscapes and beats still dominate.

Back on the vaporwave thing what blows my mind is the consistency of quality of new stuff that hits my bandcamp feed almost everyday and the “slushwave” movement or genre or tag or whatever the **** you might call it these days - the ****ing **** these people are creating is mind blowing. The way it keeps recreating itself is amazing.

That’s really incredibly apt. You piss me off sometimes but you know your ****.

Pfft, you wanted Hillary Clinton you putz.

It's a revolution, mang. People said vaporwave is dead but it isn't...and it will eventually bleed its way into everything. Hell, I'm releasing a project soon myself on Bandcamp that digs a bit into some of those substyles but with more of an avant-garde / noise bent.

The reason I brought up synthwave was mostly because Blinding Lights by The Weeknd was easily the most streamed, downloaded, etc. song of last year. And that thing (plus the album it's from) is clearly riding the synthwave bandwagon and all that Retrowave imagery / aesthetics.