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Goofle 02-12-2017 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804845)

I can keep going if you want
If you want to make my point for me, go for it.

Key 02-12-2017 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1804855)
If you want to make my point for me, go for it.
You're starting to sound like Frownland.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-12-2017 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804853)
Maybe some specific idiots did but that's a hilariously broad brush surely you know that

Also not equitable here
if an official statement from a subset of their organization represents a specfic idiot then sure

https://blacklivesmattervancouver.co...on-washington/

i'm not trying to make a claim that every person in BLM was upset, sorry if that's how i made it seem or how you interpreted it, but i didn't think anyone would jump on it so literally. the point being is that by dissecting which group is more marginalized you're just creating more barriers and separating causes rather than focusing on human rights. not to mention the term "intersectional feminism" is absolutely hilarious in it's own right.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-12-2017 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804866)
prison sentencing is almost certainly due to men committing an astronomically larger amount of violent crime
so would you agree that the US does not have a problem with cops shooting blacks then? same story.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ender_2013.xls

Goofle 02-12-2017 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804866)
prison sentencing is almost certainly due to men committing an astronomically larger amount of violent crime
The statistics look at punishment for the same crime. They aren't using the same method as the "Wage Gap" pushers.

Cuthbert 02-12-2017 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1804869)
so would you agree that the US does not have a problem with cops shooting blacks then? same story.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ender_2013.xls

https://vangogh.teespring.com/mockup...4-06&width=480

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-12-2017 02:01 PM
please respect our PoC community... your white privilege is showing.

Cuthbert 02-12-2017 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1804927)
please respect our PoC community... your white privilege is showing.
Just wanted to post that tbh.

It's brilliant

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-12-2017 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804935)
A much larger percentage of African Americans are impoverished than whites (for historical and systemic reasons)
yes

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804935)
So yes, they commit more crimes across the board
yes


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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1804935)
It does not follow that we don't have a long standing problem with lethal force against blacks in the US given that the deaths are not at all proportional to the discrepancy in crime along with investigations revealing racial motivation time and time again
well... no. there's data readily available that crunches the numbers and explains the truth behind this "phenomenon" but im not going to derail this thread because that wasn't really the purpose of my initial point. its beating a dead horse at this point anyway.

Cuthbert 02-12-2017 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1804951)
well... no.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...16/378/f88.jpg


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